# Should warpscramble stop you from entering a gate? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 17, 2025, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287 "2025-01-17T20:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/24 "2025-01-18T08:18:01Z")
Since that idea removes tactical gameplay options and only makes it easier for the already more powerful/numerous side of an engagement to kill their targets, it’s an obvious no. Many nice situations occur if you jump with the inferior gang into a larger gang, but force them to split-up by going back to the gate and engage on the other side whatever they send after you (because a part of them will have aggro-timer from tackling your ships). Then you have a minute to bring yourself into a good position before they can bring in their other ships. ---
**Author:** ![Wachutu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wachutu/32/410262_2.png) [@Wachutu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wachutu)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/25 "2025-01-18T09:08:02Z")
Ok and? ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/26 "2025-01-18T09:12:16Z")
For a short time on the test server when CCP was removing the mass reduction from a HIC field generator, a HIC bubble not only reduced the speed boost of a mwd/ab of the HIC itself, but everyone in the field. This would be preferrable to preventing one from entering a gate. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/27 "2025-01-18T09:16:21Z")
> [@James\_Fuchs](#): > > There will be no shaming of the voters in my thread, Mr Epeen. Behavior like this is utterly insolent and exhibits a hatred for the very tenets of democracy. He’s right though, people voting yes think they are always going to be the people doing the pointing, not the ones being pointed. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I think ships jumping a gate should land at 100km, instead of 0. Please no, EVE used to make every warp to a gate land at 15. There was a massive industry of Warp To Zero bookmark sellers until CCP started seeing server performance issues from the millions of bookmarks. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/28 "2025-01-18T10:01:24Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > For a short time on the test server when CCP was removing the mass reduction from a HIC field generator, What do you mean? A Warp Disruption Field generator (HIC bubble) does not affect mass at all. It blows up Sig and prevents Remote Assist, but thats all. ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/29 "2025-01-18T12:16:37Z")
don’t scrams prevent you from taking mission and pocket gates? it should also apply to stargates. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/30 "2025-01-18T13:44:45Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > So have a close look at who voted yes and who voted no. That will tell you all you need to know about that player. Or it could tell you that some people know that some ships ( Capitals ) _already_ can’t stargate jump while scrammed. So its not like there’s no precedent, or that no such thing exists in EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/31 "2025-01-18T14:14:22Z")
> [@Kaivarian\_Coste](#): > > don’t scrams prevent you from taking mission and pocket gates? it should also apply to stargates. Warping is not the same as jumping. ---
**Author:** ![Aesir\_Valtari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aesir_valtari/32/488282_2.png) [@Aesir\_Valtari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aesir_Valtari)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/32 "2025-01-18T17:57:35Z")
Sure thing, also warpscramble should instantly drain energy from victim ship to 0% and start reeling said ship towards agressor /s Of course I voted “no”. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/33 "2025-01-18T18:07:12Z")
> [@Aesir\_Valtari](#): > > Sure thing, also warpscramble should instantly drain energy from victim ship to 0% and start reeling said ship towards agressor Hmmmmm… _Poll ([view on site](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/33))_ With curious regards -James Fuchs ---
**Author:** ![Ivan\_Grzonka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ivan_grzonka/32/484990_2.png) [@Ivan\_Grzonka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ivan_Grzonka)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/34 "2025-01-18T18:12:00Z")
and we need system-wide sb’s !!! only for decloaking ofc…because cloakies are annoying too…so we can get them - bloody cloaky haulers need to die ! ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/35 "2025-01-18T18:58:29Z")
He asked if we could stop with the low hanging fruit posts. What part are you confused about ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/36 "2025-01-18T22:16:33Z")
> [@James\_Fuchs](#): > > warpscramblers Oh warp scram! I thought we’re talking about a forum game. ---
**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/37 "2025-01-18T23:30:00Z")
Why not advocate for another “new” module that does what OP asks for instead of changing existing mechanics to older modules? Then present a valid argument for its usage, stats, etc. Might be better received. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/38 "2025-01-18T23:57:35Z")
Because that would take effort, the only people who’d want this are perpetual gate campers who by its very definition are low effort players. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/39 "2025-01-19T00:02:40Z")
I’m confused as always. Are we talking about auto pilot warp in? ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/40 "2025-01-19T07:17:47Z")
This is the Zero-Point Mass Entanger. Note the items in red. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/9/f/89f5dbdf5cae874d080b1d3770b3ae3e5b232aef.png) These properties used to be on the Warp Disruption Field Generator ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/8/0/580b12407f420b0d44e49b18a6f799ce7f3be6be.jpeg) The mass reduction was leveraged to get a HIC into a wormhole at the cost of a pod worth of mass ( with three field generators fit and a 100 AB/50MWD were very good hole rollers ) but the prop mod penalty stopped a ship from going 20,000 m/s from having such low mass but still the same amount of ‘push’. When the test server released the new Zero-Point module with only the negative properties, the Warp Disruption Field Generator still worked as it did before, though the negative properties no longer impacted just the HIC, but all ships within theWarp Disruption sphere. Instawarp ships were still instawarp, but nano kitey had a much harder time burning back to gate. Considering a HIC gets a weapons timer for its field generator where a interdictor bubble does not, it would have been a very positive buff for a ship that otherwise gets hung out to dry. However, when the changes hit Tranquility, the AOE slowing effect of the Warp Disruption Field Generator was absent. Awhile later, wubbles were added to the game, though with a %40 reduction and a time delay ( which should a mechanic for all interdition launcher ammo, or none ) they are kinda lame. ---
**Author:** ![Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_rose_ivory/32/433985_2.png) [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Rose_Ivory)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/41 "2025-01-19T23:47:07Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > Yes! Wordrambling in local should automatically unscramble for you. So I play a few rounds of Boggle instead? > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I think ships jumping a gate should land at 100km, instead of 0. You forgot to add, they also get a 30 minute cloak, while moving toward the gate. @MB_ThePhotographer I agree this is a silly question. @James_Fuchs I hope I am pronouncing your last name correctly ( foo-KAS ) uh, what will be your next poll? Warping to gate removes all shields and reduces armor to zero? Are you really that bad at hitting stuff in this game? 😄 Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/42 "2025-01-20T00:53:46Z")
> [@Princess\_Rose\_Ivory](#): > > @James_Fuchs I hope I am pronouncing your last name correctly ( foo-KAS ) uh, what will be your next poll? Warping to gate removes all shields and reduces armor to zero? Are you really that bad at hitting stuff in this game? 😄 Hello Miss Ivory, thank you for your reply. To satisfy your curiousity regarding my name, the correct phonetic pronounciation apparently looks like this “ **fʊks** ” - but as an aproximation in plain english, foo-ks, foo-x would come pretty close to pronounce it correctly. I am indeed not that bad at hitting stuff, I have a satisfactory hit rate at 0 meter range and sometimes the stuff even goes up in flames, very exciting. I don’t need these ideas, but nevertheless I want to throw them around, see where revisiting certain aspects of game mechanics leads us. Needless to say though, Miss Ivory, with your board history you are certainly no bounty hunter yourself, so let’s not get too ahead of ourselves with these shots you are taking, mhm? Haha! If you have anything else to share in regards to the warp scrambler, perhaps a concrete reason why you want to see this change implemented, or not, please do so in this thread, I invite you wholeheartedly. With immobilizing regards -James fʊks ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2025, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287/43 "2025-01-20T03:30:51Z")
> [@James\_Fuchs](#): > > With immobilizing regards > -James fʊks I like players who insult you politely. 😆 It takes a bit of restraint that serves well in combat. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-warpscramble-stop-you-from-entering-a-gate/474287.md?page=3)