# Should we see a new mining faction be added

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 28, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669 "2022-09-28T16:14:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/21 "2022-09-29T12:36:34Z")

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Although no one should ever waste any development effort on mining, I have to say that one of the best times I had in game was when there where this special ORE variants of the mining ships. This was before there where skins in the game.

They where like super expensive and made for great fireworks.

So if anything, they should add super bling mining ships again that don’t actually do anything better but just make for really nice targets.

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**Author:** ![Ferdiad\_Silver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ferdiad_silver/32/331325_2.png) [@Ferdiad\_Silver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ferdiad_Silver)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/22 "2022-09-29T12:38:30Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Case in point: all ORE ships are technically Gallante but look the way they do to look practical and realistic.

I didn’t know that. However I would say that there is room for form and function, look at how farm machinery has evolved, some tractors are pretty slick nowadays.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/23 "2022-09-29T12:39:22Z")

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Aye but they arent hot rods or guilded churches or such. They still favour function over form to a rigourous level

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**Author:** ![Ferdiad\_Silver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ferdiad_silver/32/331325_2.png) [@Ferdiad\_Silver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ferdiad_Silver)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/24 "2022-09-29T12:44:21Z")

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I still see room for style accents.

Overwhelmingly functional looking. Not the same ship model though and each with its own unique flavour.

I see the amar one maybe having an engine section that is suitably curved with the right accents and everything forward if that being very practical. Gallente being bulky and compact, a pug of a vessel and where there is armour it would be green and chrome. Caldari would be very flat with modular looking cargo parts. Minmitar would look like they strung all the modules they needed together on scaffolding with solar arrays where you might see armour on other vessels.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/25 "2022-09-29T12:47:00Z")

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I think we reached another empass.

I believe bulldozers should all look like bulldozers youd like some spoilers and fluffy dice on some.

Happy to disagree

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**Author:** ![Ferdiad\_Silver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ferdiad_silver/32/331325_2.png) [@Ferdiad\_Silver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ferdiad_Silver)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/26 "2022-09-29T12:48:13Z")

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Possibly, though I don’t think a mining vessel is as constricted by its form as a bulldozer or a steam roller is.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/27 "2022-09-29T12:49:24Z")

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I did avoid mentioning real world mining vehicles as their forms are EXTREMELY constricted by their function.

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**Author:** ![Ferdiad\_Silver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ferdiad_silver/32/331325_2.png) [@Ferdiad\_Silver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ferdiad_Silver)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/28 "2022-09-29T12:51:33Z")

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Again real world mining vessels are constricted by their functions in the same way bulldozers and steam rollers are. If they mined with magical lasers that sucked up the ore, probably not so much.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/29 "2022-09-29T12:52:55Z")

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Im not sure why you would assume that other than its fantasy so may as well be giant chickens firing soup at the rocks

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**Author:** ![Ferdiad\_Silver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ferdiad_silver/32/331325_2.png) [@Ferdiad\_Silver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ferdiad_Silver)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/30 "2022-09-29T12:55:23Z")

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Because any constrictions we apply to them are only applied by the imagination of the creator. There is no analogue.

You can make some basic assumptions about the kind of systems they might employ but if space ships were all as functional as they needed to be probably every vessel would look like Caldari.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/31 "2022-09-29T12:57:13Z")

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And dont you agree it would be a beautiful place.

And actually no, there are plenty of reasons to have aethetically diverse military ships.

Military uniforms didnt used to be ornate just for fun.

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**Author:** ![Ferdiad\_Silver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ferdiad_silver/32/331325_2.png) [@Ferdiad\_Silver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ferdiad_Silver)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/32 "2022-09-29T13:00:15Z")

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Exactly, and in a world where mining vessels weren’t as constrained by function you know that people would be clamouring for Apples latest iMiner.

> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> And dont you agree it would be a beautiful place.

Previously I might, they’ve made Caldari ships a lot more pretty and symmetrical in recent years.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/33 "2022-09-29T13:02:49Z")

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> [@Ferdiad\_Silver](#):
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> in a world where mining vessels weren’t as constrained by function you know that people would be clamouring for Apples latest iMiner.

If they wanted to waste money, sure.

Ill have a shovel for $5, you can have the one with built in TV for $25 if you like

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**Author:** ![Ferdiad\_Silver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ferdiad_silver/32/331325_2.png) [@Ferdiad\_Silver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ferdiad_Silver)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/34 "2022-09-29T13:05:21Z")

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Mine has a heated handle, laser guidance and is self cleaning.

Edit: I say mine, I haven’t finished paying off the lease on it but should by the time the next model comes out.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/35 "2022-09-29T13:06:15Z")

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Ill just buy 5 more standard ones for when the first gets ganked

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/36 "2022-09-29T19:28:26Z")

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OP, just make your own corp and make the faction 😃

Mine only in Geddons with a specific skin.

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**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/37 "2022-09-29T19:28:58Z")

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Only way Id want more mining barges or exhumers is making them racial yes. New faction skills, in order to use the barges you must have ALL faction skills at L3 or L4 and to use the exhumers youd need the advanced skill to at least L3 as well with a high enough multiplier.  
Im sitting here thinking about what sort of bonuses youd give them though as theyd be faction variants so maybe single bonused mining lasers to give a 1.75 times bonus so as not to really be better than the original miners but the ability to add a single bonused weapon of racial type ( lasers for amarr, missiles for caldari, hybrids for gallente and projectiles for minmatar) or maybe ewar as well of the races. Possibly a racial bonus for mining range with caldari, armor tank for amarr, mining amount with gallente and and shield tank for minmatar.

Couple this with new/old mining sites that have rat spawns in them moreso than currently with old amounts and ore distributions. So youd need to defend yourself in them. New sites could be in all space or even go with the trig instanced for solo mining. No boost only one mining ship can enter with dangerous rats for each type. So its a gamble perhaps what rat type versus what race types ship but you have decent weapons to mine and outlast the spawns or if you get a deadly spawn youre dead.

Build costs would add faction material to T1 and all races t2 materials for T2 exhumers.

just spitballing here.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/38 "2022-09-29T20:26:45Z")

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only reason for this idea, is to not have to travel to ORE npc stations for prints, or pay players and their meager mark ups for bringing them to HS…

kinda of a crap idea when you think of it

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**Author:** ![Ferdiad\_Silver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ferdiad_silver/32/331325_2.png) [@Ferdiad\_Silver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ferdiad_Silver)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/39 "2022-09-29T22:44:29Z")

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Fuzzworks seems to suggest the return on LP for ORE products is pretty great?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-we-see-a-new-mining-faction-be-added/378669/40 "2022-09-30T11:59:02Z")

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Sure, if the locals let you earn the LP and the gankers let you get it back to Jita.

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