# Shouldn't be able to loot / trade while in a duel **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Created:** [October 17, 2023, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187 "2023-10-17T19:10:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 2:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/21 "2023-10-21T02:43:47Z")
My argument is then ccp should remove the mechanic called “duel” and call it something else, cuz it is so easily abusable. I fully expect that in the rest of the game by the way ---
**Author:** ![Nicen\_Jehr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicen_jehr/32/388048_2.png) [@Nicen\_Jehr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicen_Jehr)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/22 "2023-10-21T03:50:14Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/6/9/4699edb6223d9285efd7931d8c0ac43f4f8cad22.jpeg "The downright dirty duelling pistols for cheaters with firearms and weapon expert Jonathan Ferguson") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1fYUafNpUg) ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/23 "2023-10-21T09:56:21Z")
then CCP need to remove so many other things because its “abusable” you just didnt know a mechanic, and you though that honor is a big thing in eve but no! if someone can get a kill ther´s no honor ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/24 "2023-10-21T15:39:57Z")
New to duels? Get ready to discover whole world of unfair mechanics that the pros are using to ensure they win (or not lose). 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/25 "2023-10-22T18:02:35Z")
Then it isn’t a duel, and therefore should not be called a duel. pretty straight forward. I mean look at this cap chugging POS with a DST multibox, it’s the epitome of cowardice > **[Praxis | Lorenz Alland | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/112431916/)** > > Lorenz Alland (187-Systembande) lost their Praxis in Piekura (Lonetrek) Total Value: 301,237,246.59 ISK ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/26 "2023-10-22T18:04:13Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > > [@Buggs\_LeRoach](#): > > > > there’s always been ways to cheat , and cheating , in duels . > > who´s cheating oO > WTF … its called game mechanic and as i said a post before… there is no honor in eve Oo Yes there is. YOU have no honor. Stop projecting. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/27 "2023-10-22T18:17:32Z")
just the obvius parts of your “honor” [Related Kills | 6Q-R50 | 2023-10-15 02:00 | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/related/30004740/202310150200/) where is the honor ? [Hecate | Pappy Boyingtone | Killmail | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/kill/112176329/) where is the honor ? [Vargur | Tyber Zhann | Killmail | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/kill/110675979/) WHERE IS THE HONOR ? now you come up with, thats eve, they were in low sec / Nullsec and got catched ! YES ! but why only blobbing or kill the weaker dudes ? its just because YOU CAN ! and this means “no honor” in eve yes i´m sure and i know there is a lot of help and a lot of good ppl who want to rais their own group and inside their group they mostly respect each other but if your not in this group anymore you get sloughtered if anybody can ! even if they would blob you with a whole fleet just to get some kills … there is absolutly no honor in eve´s PvP ! ( i just specified this ) and you lose because you were wrong ! > [@Phaade](#): > > Then it isn’t a duel, and therefore should not be called a duel its still a limitid engangement timer only between you and your duelist… nobody else can shot at you ( still can but this would be a gank ) ---
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/28 "2023-10-22T20:32:49Z")
Not sure what I’m looking at. That Praxis died to triglav gate guns it would seem. Not sure why you’re upset. It’s also a terrible fit with medium acs. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/29 "2023-10-22T21:52:35Z")
he´s mad because this crazy fittet praxis killed him a day before 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/30 "2023-10-28T01:53:17Z")
Oh the kill is irrelevant it’s the way he’s fit. I assure you that fit is lethal with access to 62.5km3 of cap booster 3200s ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/31 "2023-10-28T01:54:10Z")
The first BR you linked is quite hilarious, it’s also missing their 5 faxes on grid ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/32 "2023-10-28T09:11:22Z")
and they could have a super fleet on standby … does not change the question behind it → “Wher ie the honor” ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/33 "2023-10-28T11:02:23Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/3/5/43546c3ddb6811ea44df1e9fe3fb8915cc91822a.jpeg "You don't fight with honor") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Yy0pkcfiA&t=33) ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_Saki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_saki/32/486142_2.png) [@Alice\_Saki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Saki)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/34 "2023-10-29T00:09:09Z")
Oh Highsec you so Silly ---
**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/35 "2023-10-30T14:21:01Z")
> [@Phaade](#): > > Then it isn’t a duel, and therefore should not be called a duel. did you not understand the mechanics and that it was possible to use a dst this way ? then you should not have accepted . did you expect the other player to act with honor and tradition ? then you should not have accepted . ‘duel’ does not mean what you think it should mean , that’s a you problem … ---
**Author:** ![Jabali\_Javee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jabali_javee/32/416429_2.png) [@Jabali\_Javee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jabali_Javee)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/36 "2023-11-21T17:15:19Z")
Maybe there should be a list of circunstances that will end the duel, for example looting, docking, putting your ship in a bowhead and launching another ship, etc You are right and the community is just bunch of bottom feeders using every low blow they can because they are risk averse Anyway, duels are not important for the EVE Universe so I don’t think CCP will ever make duels become real duels ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/37 "2023-11-22T03:12:24Z")
Yes, the word duel means exactly what i think it should mean. ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/38 "2023-11-22T03:13:28Z")
Agree with this, it’s just one of those things i suppose. Too bad because it could be an interesting mechanic if it facilitated legitimate duels ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/39 "2023-11-22T07:55:13Z")
It is exaxtly what younwant … you and another dude agree to fight until death ! the game rules still apply ! ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187/40 "2023-11-22T09:33:17Z")
Maybe there should be an `Honorable Space Bushido Duel` option which would teleport the two participants into an abyssal deadspace pocket with a 15 or 30 minutes timer and if neither side dies by then then they both die, otherwise the surviving party can leave through a gate that spawns, granting the winner 5 minutes time to grab the loot and corpse then leave. 🤔 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shouldnt-be-able-to-loot-trade-while-in-a-duel/424187.md?page=3)