# Shuttle is the new go to scout. Is this reasonable? **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Created:** [October 7, 2021, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171 "2021-10-07T14:08:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Highfly\_Chastot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/highfly_chastot/32/377320_2.png) [@Highfly\_Chastot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Highfly_Chastot)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171/62 "2021-12-05T17:22:31Z")
Just use a shuttle for travel, interceptor for fight/travel šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø if you want to travel fast get a leopard. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171/63 "2021-12-05T17:30:57Z")
![primary-share](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/f/6/8f61d6a6b0a61a13b928a130b63ee3a5536027d3.png) ---
**Author:** ![Cpt\_WhiteEye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cpt_whiteeye/32/473463_2.png) [@Cpt\_WhiteEye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cpt_WhiteEye)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171/64 "2021-12-05T17:36:39Z")
ā€œDonā€™t nobodyā€ is a double negative which means everyone understands me. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2021, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171/65 "2021-12-05T18:40:09Z")
> [@Cpt\_WhiteEye](#): > > And will again reply to this here even without understanding it. Indeed, I donā€™t understand what youā€™re rambling on about. Could you please, without attacking me, try to make clear (1) what it is you think the roles of interceptors and shuttles are, (2) what you think is wrong with shuttles and interceptors and (3) what you think should happen to fix that issue? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171/66 "2021-12-06T00:29:40Z")
Everyone can employ the tactic. Ergo, it is balanced. Sorry bro, it is reasonable. Keep crying tho. Its entertaining šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171/67 "2021-12-06T00:53:46Z")
> [@Cpt\_WhiteEye](#): > > OR you can do it in a shuttle for FREE. Made from FREE ore you mined yourself, i betā€¦ ā€“Gadget knows that everything has a priceā€¦ even certain Gadgets ---
**Author:** ![Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marvyn_nightshade/32/455724_2.png) [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marvyn_Nightshade)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171/68 "2021-12-11T09:16:16Z")
> [@Cpt\_WhiteEye](#): > > See? You cant understand it and i have asked you to stop posting here. You ignored it. The lack of ur understanding of what shuttles are capable as of now is saddening. The lack of understanding you have as to how 0.0 works the lack of understanding of the need to ā€œQuickly travel in 0.0ā€ is just plain sad and at the same time disturbing. That you as someone who play EVE online as someone who thinks they can think rationally of what game mechanics allow not understanging anything of it is deeply concerning. That there are players like you who tink they know game mechanics but understand nothing about it. > > That the only tought you have is ā€œBut shuttle had no rolesā€ ā€œBut interceptors are combat shipsā€ The lack of correlation you make between such things. > > I am sorry for you. Sorry for how ignorant you are and that you need to live with such a shallow mindset without actually thinking before you say anything. You simply cast away a valid argument to repeat the same 0 tought first thing came in mind. ā€œBut shuttles needed a roleā€ And that ā€œI needed to travel fastā€ You disregard the fact that having a realible way to travel wast was already achieved. You disregard the fact that shuttles with this change indeed FACTUALLY have gained unintended roles besides traveling. You fail to understand basic 0.0 mechanics you fail to understand that 0.0 is or should be the endgame which should not be easily traversed. You fail to understand that even tough Interceptros can in fact tackle it doesnt mean they cant as well travel fast. You fail to understand the risk vs reward of using a shuttle. > > You simply do not understand any of this. And will again reply to this here even without understanding it. > > No one thinks that flying with nullification equal to being a interceptor. Thats is solely the lack of understanding you have in the matter. Which you have repeatedly shown here. I think CCPā€™s goal was to make people more willing to give nullsec a try. And they succeeded. Iā€™ve been totally flying around areas of nullsec that were too much a pain to visit before. However, a shuttle only allows you to look. It doesnā€™t allow you to touch anything. Want to try doing mining missions for ORE? Or maybe Serpentis? Now you can certainly get out there and reach the station. But you canā€™t really do much mission running from a shuttle. I donā€™t see much angle for abuse here, because the ā€œscout shipā€ meta always did focus on just plain using expendable ships. And the difference between escaping in a 5000 isk ship as opposed to just letting them blow you up in a corvette (with no implants) is pretty hard to strategize around. ---
**Author:** ![Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syeed_ameer_ali/32/411549_2.png) [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syeed_Ameer_Ali)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171/69 "2021-12-11T12:07:23Z")
Anyone using a shuttle to scout in nullsec is at a serious handicap, because their scout is obviously not blue to the alliance they are scouting. Therefore everyone knows that they are being scouted and has fair warning to expect an attack. Vexors are superior scouting vessels compared to shuttles. Nobody suspects the blue newbie in a Vexor. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171/70 "2021-12-14T17:40:19Z")
Blackout was good, made the little piggys worry, they never knew when the big bad wolf would strike. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/2/d/22dc3901823d84c6b7cf82b3825a7303fd8d1cd4.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171/71 "2021-12-14T17:42:52Z")
The best scout is the spy in your fleet ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171/72 "2021-12-14T19:41:47Z")
> [@Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/local-comms-blackout-discussion-thread/171935/2283): > > Iā€™ve updated this meme to represent the current state of EVEā€¦ [updated] popcornsmiling_imp ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171/73 "2021-12-14T20:06:02Z")
So what you trying to say is that real men PvP naked and have big crosses? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171/74 "2021-12-14T22:13:19Z")
If in your assessment they are the definition of real men then sure. šŸ˜‰ šŸ¤­ šŸ˜ ---
**Author:** ![una\_noche\_mas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/una_noche_mas/32/296902_2.png) [@una\_noche\_mas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/una_noche_mas)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171/75 "2021-12-15T09:19:31Z")
you are sarcastic there right ? tell me you are soā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171/76 "2021-12-15T12:25:31Z")
No, Iā€™m serious. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2022, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttle-is-the-new-go-to-scout-is-this-reasonable/331171/77 "2022-03-15T12:26:26Z")
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