# Shuttles are not safe **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 9, 2025, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527 "2025-11-09T13:38:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/42 "2025-11-11T06:37:26Z")
Smaller chunks? For something like that blueprint collection, I’d probably use a cov ops frigate or a brick cov/nulli t3c. Or blops bridge. I absolutely wouldn’t be flying gate to gate through lowsec in a shuttle. Especially not through a system with numerous smartbomb losses in the preceding couple of hours. Simply taking a moment to check zkill for systems along the route would have saved it. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/43 "2025-11-11T11:02:39Z")
> [@Adada\_Tuesday](#): > > What would happen if you reported this theft to the police? They’d have a damn good laugh. It would be on par with willingly gambling $5000 at a Las Vegas casino and then calling in police when instead of making millions you lost it all. ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/44 "2025-11-11T11:06:19Z")
If playing EVE is considered gambling then CCP might be in trouble ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/46 "2025-11-11T11:22:08Z")
> [@Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](#): > > what you took from the comment? Not sure how most people not realize he’s just spreading random nonsense as a reply 99% of his posts just to stir up drama. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/47 "2025-11-11T11:28:08Z")
> [@Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](#): > > That’s what you took from the comment? Unfortunately his forum PvP is at the unarmed and empty Ibis level containing a pod with no implants. ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/48 "2025-11-11T11:39:52Z")
Im sorry someone made a bad analogy ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/49 "2025-11-11T11:57:54Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Not sure how most people not realize he’s just vomiting some random nonsense as a reply 99% of his posts just to stir up drama Don’t attribute to malice what is perfectly explained by stupidity and derangement. - Makes a new alt - starts sperg posting - some people catch on early but most don’t - some people keep feeding them - more people catch on and call it out - he goes quiet for a bit Rinse repeat. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/50 "2025-11-11T12:25:51Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > Don’t attribute to malice what is perfectly explained by stupidity and derangement. What a dumb quote. Treat everything as it is instead of generalizations. If he was just stupid and deranged he would at least be consistent about it, yet he’s just posting contrarian stuff regardless what his prior posts were. He isn’t even continuing the subject in a lot of cases just posts something entirely different but contrarian that is expected to trigger the other side. Not that it matters, if people fall for it it is on them. This is why I don’t engage in the subjects with him specifically as it is pointless, though sometimes join in with the others in the discussion whom can have a reasonable talk with. Was just an observation on my part that many don’t seem to realize what is going on, which is odd as he is doing it in a blatant and obvious fashion. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/51 "2025-11-11T12:28:20Z")
A cloaky can be caught, there is a a ship though that can’t be caught in high sec. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/52 "2025-11-11T12:29:53Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > smart bombs proof Why not just buy a `hauling permit`? 🤔 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/53 "2025-11-11T12:56:37Z")
I’d suggest that his persistent need to post contrarian stuff as frequently as he does, only to rinse and repeat it with new characters, falls very much under “derangement” and “stupidity” 🙂 He’s not being smart about it, he’s just a tool. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/54 "2025-11-11T12:57:58Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > falls very much under “derangement” and “stupidity” With the malicious intent to stir up drama instead of caring for the subject. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/55 "2025-11-11T14:36:18Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > he’s just a tool. A tool is usefull ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/56 "2025-11-11T14:39:27Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > is usefull Maybe you can convince him to send you 1 bil ISK. That would make him useful, right? 🤔 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/57 "2025-11-11T15:12:22Z")
> [@createanew](#): > > what do u recommend transporting 260 billion in? A fleet. In Null sec? A fleet. Why are you transporting 260b by yourself? Literally everyone in low and null will kill you on sight. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/58 "2025-11-11T15:13:31Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > there is a a ship though that can’t be caught in high sec Yes, but I don’t transport for other people. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/59 "2025-11-11T15:14:58Z")
Is Panfam gonna be OK? ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/60 "2025-11-11T16:12:42Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > there is a a ship though that can’t be caught in high sec. A 450K EHP Eagle. That’s 52 T2 Catalysts to kill in 10 seconds or less….which in itself would be way more than the 240m ISK cost of the Eagle. Even with 1bn ISK in cargo, the loot fairy would still determine it barely worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/61 "2025-11-11T16:43:01Z")
260 bilion in an Eagle - excellent idea. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/62 "2025-11-11T17:08:57Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > A fleet. In Null sec? A fleet. Why are you transporting 260b by yourself? Literally everyone in low and null will kill you on sight. For high value, low volume assets, trusting other people is significantly less safe than simply lighting your own covert cyno and jumping your own blops. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527.md?page=4)