# Shuttles are not safe **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 9, 2025, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527 "2025-11-09T13:38:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![createanew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/createanew/32/479353_2.png) [@createanew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/createanew)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/63 "2025-11-11T17:33:12Z")
10 years in a video game and only 260 bil of assets seems kind of pathetic if u ask me…..a alpha char could probably make that much in a year or two on his own without ever going omega. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/64 "2025-11-11T19:13:30Z")
Using a battleship isn’t a bad idea. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/65 "2025-11-11T19:22:00Z")
That it’s a battleship barely matters - if you do somehow get caught in it, you’re \*probably\* still going to die. It’s the covert cyno and jump drive that you’re leveraging, not the EHP. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/66 "2025-11-11T19:26:37Z")
I know that. Even if he jumps safely to High sec, he still better keep a low profile going through Uedama. I gave my true recommendation. I said use a fleet. He should also make many trips. Me personally? I do it in about 20 trips in very sneaky trips out of null and then very tanky trips to Jita. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/67 "2025-11-11T19:30:10Z")
Why would you fly a jump-capable ship through Uedama at all though? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/68 "2025-11-11T19:33:46Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > A cloaky can be caught, Never said a cloaked Blockade Runner was uncatchable, however the chances of it not getting caught far outweighs the chances of it getting caught… > [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > there is a a ship though that can’t be caught in high sec. And what ship is that, the Friendship? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/69 "2025-11-11T19:35:26Z")
If you read other replies you would know that zkill doesn’t take into account the BPOs were all 10/20s. So that number is significantly higher than 250b ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/70 "2025-11-11T19:44:50Z")
> [@Namdor](#): > > Why would you fly a jump-capable ship through Uedama at all though? Last I checked, you can’t Cyno into or through High Sec. So if that was my one and only ship, I may do it, but aside from that, no I wouldn’t. They cost too damn much and have crap defense even when fit. I don’t like the Gallente BLOP. If I was in this guy’s shoes, I’d swap ships into something more suited to High Sec before going through Uedama. That’s what I’d do. So to recap- I personally would never take a BLOP through Uedama. Twenty or more trips through Uedama in a ship with a million EHP to carry all of that loot to Jita spaced out over a period of a couple weeks to ensure no one wonders why I keep going back and forth would likely be how I’d handle it. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/71 "2025-11-11T19:54:34Z")
Let me rephrase the question. Why do you think travel through Uedama is necessary in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/72 "2025-11-11T20:03:34Z")
Clearly you’re trying to elude to some point so I’ll clear some things up in order to get there sometime this week. I don’t have a cyno ship. I used to when my corp decided that we were going to train with BLOPS. I sold my BLOP when that didn’t happen. I don’t have a bunch of alts stashed throughout null and low sec waiting to light cynos as a travel network. I also don’t travel through null and low unless I’m in a ship that’s suited for it and does not have any valuable cargo. Thus, I travel through Uedama. I hope that clears some things up. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/73 "2025-11-11T20:10:22Z")
What about safe logging the BPO ship then using filaments on another character until can get to it then move the BPOs to the new ship and filament out? Is there something preventing it? Or the cyno method is supposed to be safer? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/74 "2025-11-11T20:29:37Z")
If you’re moving, e.g., a few hundred billion in BPOs, it would be entirely worth it to just plex up (or weekend fleet pack) your cyno alt, grab a blops off the market, move your stuff, sell the blops, and you’re done. You don’t have to like the Sin, it’s just a tool and a commodity. You don’t need a network of cyno ships, you just fly the one cov ops sporting the cyno gate to gate, and the most dangerous thing you ever do is the gate jump into Jita. You otherwise never need to be in anything even vaguely resembling danger. > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > What about safe logging the BPO ship then using filaments on another character until can get to it then move the BPOs to the new ship and filament out? Is there something preventing it? Or the cyno method is supposed to be safer? Filaments are very workable, as are traditional wormholes. I like the blops approach because the planning is a bit easier and there’s nothing random to have to account for, but yeah - those can work. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/75 "2025-11-11T20:45:39Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > What about safe logging the BPO ship then using filaments on another character until can get to it then move the BPOs to the new ship and filament out? Is there something preventing it? Or the cyno method is supposed to be safer? Pochven Express is far safer and easier. Have some random in a sub 2 sec align cloaky bring the required filaments to that system, check if the system is clear, log in the character, hand over the loot, filament out to pochven, cloak up, wait 15 minutes, filament to HS, travel to Jita and dock using docking BM. That’s about 99.9% safe. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/76 "2025-11-11T21:07:24Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Thus, I travel through Uedama. I hope that clears some things up. If I’d ever need to get a jump-capable ship like a blops through Uedama I’d jump it to a covert cyno in a safe in system, not jump through a gate into it. That avoids 99% of the danger of Uedama. Then scout the gate out for smartbombs and warp straight to it when clear. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/77 "2025-11-11T21:43:25Z")
I’m not into jumping through low and null. Though I would get a jump ship if we could jump through High Sec systems. That’ll never happen though. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/78 "2025-11-11T21:47:50Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > Pochven Express is far safer and easier. Have some random in a sub 2 sec align cloaky bring the required filaments to that system, check if the system is clear, log in the character, hand over the loot, filament out to pochven, cloak up, wait 15 minutes, filament to HS, travel to Jita and dock using docking BM. > > That’s about 99.9% safe. Pochven Express got a little bit riskier when CCP finally introduced a spool-up timer for filaments. As you can never check if the ‘system is clear’ due to the wormhole-like delayed local feature of Pochven you never know what kind of dangers you attract while you sit in a safe spot waiting for your filament trace to complete it’s spool, which can be seen on the directional scanner and can be combat probed. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/79 "2025-11-11T22:01:31Z")
The delay is 1 minute. If you’re not near any celestial and your Dscan shows clear before starting it up then the chance of being caught is extremely low. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/80 "2025-11-11T22:06:29Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > I’m not into jumping through low and null. This is just poor risk management and inexperience, imo. Low and null have enormous swaths of empty space that are extremely safe to move through. Gating through Ahbazon is not the same thing as jump-driving into an entirely vacant system in a ship with a cloak. ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/81 "2025-11-11T22:07:42Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > I personally would never take a BLOP through Uedama. BLOPs are one of the safest ships to travel in high sec, by the way. Albeit slow. If flown right, of course, they are uncatchable unless you have some bad luck or you F up yourself. And yes, I have taken BLOPs through Uedama countless times. ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/82 "2025-11-11T22:10:45Z")
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