# Shuttles are not safe **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 9, 2025, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527 "2025-11-09T13:38:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Gasephed\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gasephed_sinak/32/478207_2.png) [@Gasephed\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gasephed_Sinak)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/103 "2025-11-13T12:49:20Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Sometimes new players ask why people would attack their shuttle. The OP’s first line mentions new players, and all true new players begin in high security space. That framing naturally leads the discussion toward HS safety, which is why several readers approached it from that angle. The kill example being from lowsec is fine, but it shifts the context away from what new players actually experience in their starting environment. If the intention was a general “shuttles aren’t safe anywhere” message, then mixing new player framing with a lowsec example is what caused the confusion. > [@James\_Fuchs](#): > > I live rentfree in your head. Hello @Aiko_Danuja , agreeing with yourself again? ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/104 "2025-11-13T13:05:18Z")
> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > The OP’s first line mentions new players, and all true new players begin in high security space. Many new players also venture outside high scurity space while they are still new. I took a look in wormhole space a few days in and lived in null sec after a couple of weeks. This topic is about cheap ships in any part of space. The destroyed shuttle in the example was of a null sec player who got smartbombed in low security space. That you and some others by default think of high security space is not my intention, but I guess it makes sense if most of your EVE gameplay happens there. But no, let me be clear that this is not a topic about HS in particular. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/105 "2025-11-13T13:24:18Z")
> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > Hello @Aiko_Danuja , agreeing with yourself again? I apparently live rent free in your head. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/106 "2025-11-13T13:48:30Z")
But in terms of theft or destruction, players like to put a real world monetary value on stuff in game if you read articles about past wars or past thefts ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/107 "2025-11-13T13:50:28Z")
And this topic was created before it was revealed the true intention behind the pilot in question. Either way, new players always ask why their cheap ships get destroyed and this was a cheap ship. But the topic in general has nothing else to do with new players. ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/108 "2025-11-13T13:55:14Z")
A word of advice to whom it might concern, you can make perfect sense and have the best arguments but the trolls will still gaslight you because they play by different rules. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/109 "2025-11-13T13:58:32Z")
Thanks Adada, but I’ve been around long enough to know how to deal with those! ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/110 "2025-11-13T14:05:02Z")
Don’t talk to strangers, especially on internet forums. ---
**Author:** ![Gasephed\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gasephed_sinak/32/478207_2.png) [@Gasephed\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gasephed_Sinak)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/111 "2025-11-13T14:06:27Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > live rent free in your head You are welcome there. I have room… > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Thanks Adada I’m not sure he was talking to you in particular. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/d/4/7d4849d17f4c5e53cfbfd92ee28b29082baae83c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/112 "2025-11-13T14:15:29Z")
> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > I’m not sure he was talking to you in particular. I’m sure he was not. But I couldn’t pass the opportunity to react as if he did. Of course he wasn’t talking to me but to you, his fellow new forum trolling alt. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/113 "2025-11-13T14:40:27Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Ahh, so new players **are** getting ganked in-game… A _large_ portion of ‘new’ players are not in the least bit new. In fact the number of old ‘newbies’ is likely way larger than the number of new ones, as existing players create alts. Oh, and I have to laugh at the sheer frequency of ‘ I took a break for 10 years’. Why is it _always_ 10 years ? No-one ever seems to take a break for 6.5 years. ---
**Author:** ![Gasephed\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gasephed_sinak/32/478207_2.png) [@Gasephed\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gasephed_Sinak)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/114 "2025-11-13T15:08:30Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Of course he wasn’t talking to me but to you Classic deflection. Are shuttles safe? ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/115 "2025-11-13T15:35:33Z")
If you had read this thread you would know my answer to that question. In fact, even the title alone already answers it. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/116 "2025-11-13T16:01:54Z")
> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > That doesn’t really connect to the question of new players being targeted by gankers in high security space. I once had to leave a guild in Mortal Online 2 because it was full of flat earthers, and those guys _still_ weren’t as delusional as the subset of Eve forum users who think anyone bothers to specifically target new players. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/117 "2025-11-13T16:17:55Z")
> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > Hello @Aiko_Danuja , agreeing with yourself again? She lives **rentfree** in your head. Now be a good boy and send her **1 billion** isk ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/118 "2025-11-13T16:21:37Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > send her **1 billion** isk If he does that that means she lives `rentfree` in his wallet as well. 🤔 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/119 "2025-11-13T16:24:09Z")
It’s not enough that she pays no rent? She has to also receive money from the landlord? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/120 "2025-11-13T16:25:33Z")
> [@Adada\_Tuesday](#): > > Don’t talk to strangers, especially on internet forums. Good advice - you are now on ignore list ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/121 "2025-11-13T16:25:53Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > She has to also receive money from the landlord? But of course, free ISK is free ISK. 🤔 😉 > [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > you are now on ignore list I wonder what other (private or government curated) lists he might be on. 🤔 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527/122 "2025-11-13T16:27:27Z")
Yes, the landlord has to pay for the privilege of having such as anwesome tenant > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > I wonder what other (private or government curated) lists he might be on I am guessing hes’s a **serial killer** as plays EVE [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/shuttles-are-not-safe/500527.md?page=7)