# Sick of the PvP fantasy **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896 "2022-04-25T11:47:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/koyaan_i_squatchi/32/373301_2.png) [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Koyaan_i_Squatchi)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/1 "2022-04-25T11:47:59Z")
In a great number of threads, I keep seeing: EVE is a PvP game, get used to it, enjoy getting wiped out for the good of the game… uh…NO…all you gankers, et al, that keep spraying this drivel about: I hereby invite you to join me in War Thunder - which IS a real PvP game - and I’ll blow you right out of the sky Koyaan ps. and let me do my mining in peace lol ---
**Author:** ![Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/koyaan_i_squatchi/32/373301_2.png) [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Koyaan_i_Squatchi)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/3 "2022-04-25T12:21:22Z")
I’m extremely calm - I’m just calmly waiting for one of these guys to take me up on my challenge in pure PvP ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/4 "2022-04-25T12:22:06Z")
> [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](#): > > In a great number of threads, I keep seeing: > > EVE is a PvP game, get used to it, enjoy getting wiped out for the good of the game… > > uh…NO…all you gankers, et al, that keep spraying this drivel about: > > I hereby invite you to join me in War Thunder - which IS a real PvP game - and I’ll blow you right out of the sky > > Koyaan > > ps. and let me do my mining in peace lol wen you blow up in war thunder you lose nothing in eve you lose your ship , the stakes ![recipe-sous-vide-medium-rare-strip-steak-header-centered](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/9/e/d9ed63c3eced5038896462673e7896f9445165da.jpeg) are wayyy bigger in eve thats why some people find EVE pvp so exciting btw the only people who say eve is not a PVP game is people that don’t do PVP in eve thats at least a indication that they are wrong , because one knows better about what he does than about what he dont ---
**Author:** ![Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/koyaan_i_squatchi/32/373301_2.png) [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Koyaan_i_Squatchi)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/5 "2022-04-25T12:28:47Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > the stakes are wayyy bigger in eve > thats why some people find EVE pvp so exciting what stakes? who cares about the value of pixels - I’m talking about performance vs. SP+fit gankers don’t go about killing adversaries, they get their jollies killing defenseless miners and freighters I’m not talking about legitimate contests between two equal opponents - those are very rare in EVE ---
**Author:** ![Adm\_Malkaviano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adm_malkaviano/32/496610_2.png) [@Adm\_Malkaviano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adm_Malkaviano)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/6 "2022-04-25T12:28:59Z")
No dude, if everybody mines in peace, aka afk the economy would be in the toilet. PvP is baaaaaaad, but mining in peace is also baaaaaaad. Also on point, we are also sick of QQ threads about mining in peace, it’s just perspective. ---
**Author:** ![Adm\_Malkaviano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adm_malkaviano/32/496610_2.png) [@Adm\_Malkaviano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adm_Malkaviano)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/8 "2022-04-25T12:32:18Z")
Well there are way more chinese people in the world also, your point? ---
**Author:** ![Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/koyaan_i_squatchi/32/373301_2.png) [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Koyaan_i_Squatchi)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/9 "2022-04-25T12:32:55Z")
> [@Adm\_Malkaviano](#): > > your point? It’s your point, you made it… ---
**Author:** ![Adm\_Malkaviano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adm_malkaviano/32/496610_2.png) [@Adm\_Malkaviano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adm_Malkaviano)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/10 "2022-04-25T12:33:42Z")
Ok then, NO PEACE! I think the message is clear now. ---
**Author:** ![Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/koyaan_i_squatchi/32/373301_2.png) [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Koyaan_i_Squatchi)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/11 "2022-04-25T12:35:28Z")
The message is completely clear EVE is NOT a PvP game, although it contains that kind of play War Thunder is a pure PvP game - that’s all we do over there - come and try it and see if you can take it - we fight amongst our peers not like gankers who pray on defenseless newbies and miners ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/12 "2022-04-25T12:40:29Z")
> [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](#): > > what stakes? i lost close to 50 billions in ships thats = a lot of my time you lost 6 billions , thats = just the right amount to motivate you to post yet another cry topic about pvp ---
**Author:** ![Yonniya\_Rainor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonniya_rainor/32/350908_2.png) [@Yonniya\_Rainor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonniya_Rainor)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/13 "2022-04-25T12:41:53Z")
War Thunder has no in-game economy. It’s a simple pew-pew game on treads and wings. EVE Online is a sandbox environment where PvP is an important part, but only one part of it. There’s economics, industry, politics too. Trying to compare War Thunder to EVE Online is like trying to compare a cartoon to a documentary. ---
**Author:** ![Jumpdrive](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jumpdrive/32/285032_2.png) [@Jumpdrive](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jumpdrive)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/14 "2022-04-25T12:42:28Z")
We can’t let you mine in peace, but there’s waaaay too much boring PvE required to create the PvP ships, so I’ll give you that. The only way out of the time trap is doing PvP in frigates and dessies. ---
**Author:** ![Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/koyaan_i_squatchi/32/373301_2.png) [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Koyaan_i_Squatchi)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/15 "2022-04-25T12:43:16Z")
You guys keep wanting to put your emotions on me - I’m not crying… I’m calling out the ~~cowards~~ gankers that want to play with somebody that can defend himself And I’m just telling the truth - EVE is not a PvP game ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/16 "2022-04-25T12:44:45Z")
> [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](#): > > YOu guys keep wanting to put your emotions on me - I’m not crying… > > I’m calling out the ~~cowards~~ gankers that want to play with somebody that can defend himself why cant you defend yourself ? i only fly armed ships , you can do it to i play word of tanks blitz , the game is pvp , yes , but people go AFK, people are BAAAD , because they lose nothing wen the tank goes kaboom , eve is not that casual , its a fact , accept it ---
**Author:** ![Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/koyaan_i_squatchi/32/373301_2.png) [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Koyaan_i_Squatchi)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/17 "2022-04-25T12:48:15Z")
You are missing the point that I don’t care if I lose a ship and I DO have armed ships in EVE, the best. That’s not my point - the point is attacking unarmed ships for fun - that’s not PvP, that’s murder plain and simple - some of us, just like in real life, oppose murder and mayhem and that’s all ganking is… I don’t choose to PvP in EVE - it’s a one-sided affair and the winner of such an affair is the player with the most SP and best fit - it has little to do with skill ---
**Author:** ![Jumpdrive](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jumpdrive/32/285032_2.png) [@Jumpdrive](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jumpdrive)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/18 "2022-04-25T12:49:25Z")
> [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](#): > > That’s not my point - the point is attacking unarmed ships for fun - that’s not PvP, that’s murder plain and simple - some of us, just like in real life, oppose murder and mayhem and that’s all ganking is… Most players are hunters, not fighters. This is something you have to deal with. The only fighters are in low sec. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/19 "2022-04-25T12:49:57Z")
there is a very small part of EVE pvp players that are gankers i cant say nothing for the gankers because im not one that said i think they are good for the game ---
**Author:** ![Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/koyaan_i_squatchi/32/373301_2.png) [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Koyaan_i_Squatchi)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/20 "2022-04-25T12:50:14Z")
> [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](#): > > Maybe I’ll go out with my shotgun later today and blow some squirrels out of their nests hunters, eh? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/21 "2022-04-25T12:50:52Z")
> [@Jumpdrive](#): > > The only fighters are in low sec. this guy must be a genius 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/22 "2022-04-25T12:51:18Z")
> [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](#): > > exactly - way more miners than gankers I do agree. There are way more miners than gankers. HS is pretty big! Gankers can’t cover the entirety of HS Ganking is a very valid game play style. The incursion community has recently delt with gankers ganking our bling. Yes I is pretty annoying when 20 catalyists drop on you and say GF afterwards. Don’t let that get to you! The gankers want salt. they want OP’s like this. And this is one of the ways he has to vent his feelings… sadly. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896.md?page=2)