# Sick of the PvP fantasy **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896 "2022-04-25T11:47:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/123 "2022-04-26T22:45:12Z")
> [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](#): > > I’m calling out the ~~cowards~~ gankers that want to play with somebody that can defend himself As someone who spent their time hunting gankers , I must say if we slip up in our PvP/ag ships they will try and kill us , not many are cowardly and often are dangerous adversaries to be around . ---
**Author:** ![Blaedin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blaedin/32/435160_2.png) [@Blaedin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blaedin)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/124 "2022-04-26T23:28:23Z")
Virtually everyone CAN mine in peace in high sec–IF they skill to fly the right ship. It’s the new players and alphas gankers target, which is why they’re so toxic to the game. Veteran miners rarely get screwed with b/c they can afford a ship with a tank big enough to require more than just a few guys in t1 destroyers. These ‘pvprs’ aren’t out to find good fights–they’re mainly interested in killing something that isn’t able to fight back. ---
**Author:** ![Adm\_Malkaviano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adm_malkaviano/32/496610_2.png) [@Adm\_Malkaviano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adm_Malkaviano)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/125 "2022-04-26T23:57:07Z")
You just described every single fight in RL except UFC like. Where is it written people should be left alone inside the game universe? If you want do discuss the terrible game design, ■■■■ mechanics and T1 destroyer useless piece of garbage but gank, I’m game. But don’t make things up like: ‘you have a right to mine’. Except if you believe in James 315 and bought a mining permit, then it’s ok. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/126 "2022-04-27T00:08:16Z")
> [@Adm\_Malkaviano](#): > > T1 destroyer useless piece of garbage but gank, lies they are FW favorites ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/127 "2022-04-27T01:06:50Z")
EVE is a PvP game. Always has been. Always will be (the moment it stops being a PvP game, it dies). ---
**Author:** ![Octavech\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/octavech_raholan/32/373797_2.png) [@Octavech\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Octavech_Raholan)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/128 "2022-04-27T02:55:21Z")
Eve is not a pvp game, it is a game about freedom. You can do PVE, you can do PVP, you can mine and you can even gank. I play Eve because me, as a player, can influence the world lore as seen in Scope. That means I can make a positive difference in this slavery and tyranny filled in-game universe. If changing the real world is difficult, changing the fictional in-game universe must be way easier. If you code cultists want to drown yourself in brainless pvp and weak-culling, go play [diep.io](http://diep.io). ---
**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/129 "2022-04-27T03:00:53Z")
I have a mining alt and the hulk hoovers very quickly. Use an endurance for low sec as its align is 2. Something seconds (3 seconds). The endurance can warp away before anything even exits warp on grid. Just use hulk in high sec unless you’re happy to sit there forever in a mack. I have the cloaky version of the endurance but it’s defenseless. It doesn’t have a drone bay. Anyway with a expedition frigate, you wont get gangked. ---
**Author:** ![Katya\_Itzimaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katya_itzimaru/32/512123_2.png) [@Katya\_Itzimaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katya_Itzimaru)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/130 "2022-04-27T06:26:55Z")
The only people HS gankers pose a serious threat to are AFKers and high-grade morons. They have so much low-hanging fruit killing them that anyone halfway competent isn’t too bothered by it. ---
**Author:** ![Anysense](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anysense/32/400517_2.png) [@Anysense](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anysense)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/131 "2022-04-27T08:38:56Z")
> [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](#): > > I hereby invite you to join me in War Thunder - which IS a real PvP game - and I’ll blow you right out of the sky So called pvp players in EVE aren’t going to be tempted by this offer. They are not looking for fights, they are looking for victims - the more helpless the better. They simply have no interest in fight where the adversary might hit back regardless of the stakes. EVE has long been advertised as a some sort of online assylum for people mental disorders and tuned to be one, hence it can hardly come as a surprise that 99.(9)% of pvp is so called ‘salt farming’ and 99.(9)% interaction on forums is trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Jumpdrive](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jumpdrive/32/285032_2.png) [@Jumpdrive](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jumpdrive)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/132 "2022-04-27T09:32:07Z")
> [@Anysense](#): > > EVE has long been advertised as a some sort of online assylum for people mental disorders and tuned to be one, We have far more malfunctioning and misdirected workaholics in this game, than we have real psychos, but it’s nice people still recognize that EVE also performs this useful public service. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/133 "2022-04-27T10:22:51Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/3/d/23d998a6fff3ad493ea503435feb3f2735fa3303.jpeg "EvE Online - Heron Solo PvP") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru58k8psXiE) look a month old eve player picking fights in a heron instead of posting cry baby topics glorious ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/134 "2022-04-27T10:32:26Z")
> [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](#): > > I hereby invite you to join me in War Thunder - which IS a real PvP game - and I’ll blow you right out of the sky Let me guess, German planes enthusiast ? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/135 "2022-04-27T10:35:42Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > German planes enthusiast ? NAAAA MAN spitfire is GOAT ---
**Author:** ![Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/koyaan_i_squatchi/32/373301_2.png) [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Koyaan_i_Squatchi)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/136 "2022-04-27T11:01:58Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > The actual reason that no one’s taking you up on your challenge is that your choice of game _sucks._ It’s some unknown, obscure P2W title that not a single person but you has ever heard of or played. It’s not worth the effort to even install it. Now that IS funny In War Thunder, squadron are about the same as corps in EVE There are more squadrons in War Thunder than players in EVE most days lol ---
**Author:** ![Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/koyaan_i_squatchi/32/373301_2.png) [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Koyaan_i_Squatchi)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/137 "2022-04-27T11:03:07Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > Let me guess, > > German planes enthusiast ? no, I have most of the planes in every country ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/138 "2022-04-27T11:29:43Z")
> [@Koyaan\_i\_Squatchi](#): > > no, I have most of the planes in every country Whats your ID, I’ll duel you. Also, you need to try Imperial Navy Slicer pvp in Eve, or any form of scram kiting gameplay, you would probably find it enticing enough. ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/139 "2022-04-27T13:08:32Z")
Dropping in to say your lack of minerals is disturbing. You have no idea how the game works or the place of PvP within it. Get better. ---
**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/140 "2022-04-27T19:05:25Z")
That was good. I like the early jazz. ---
**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/141 "2022-04-27T19:11:13Z")
That was very good. Great bait ship. That toon might be young, but that player was not. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896/142 "2022-04-28T07:55:32Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > Whats your ID, I’ll duel you. Just what I thought, all talk and no balls. @Koyaan_i_Squatchi [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sick-of-the-pvp-fantasy/359896.md?page=8)