# SICO is no longer a target for me, ICANP still is **URL:** \ **Category:** Corporation & Alliance Discussion\ **Created:** [March 4, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738 "2020-03-04T15:23:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/171 "2020-03-05T05:11:56Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Not the first time he has done that. I hear that if you talk to people about cutting their hands off, they stop stealing your stuff. It’s a traditional _EVE_ method of dealing with thieves. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/172 "2020-03-05T05:27:50Z")
> [@Destiny\_Alar](#): > > But if all of the proof is tainted by things hyperactive moderators don’t like how can we properly expose him? But you don’t really need to know all of that. Seeing how he was _using_ the newbies he recruits for his lobbying purposes was all I needed to know what kind of person he is and what I had to do about it… ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/173 "2020-03-05T05:40:34Z")
> [@Gergoran\_Moussou](#): > > I hear that if you talk to people about cutting their hands off, they stop stealing your stuff Wasn’t anything left to steal by that point, but I heard if you do that, you get banned. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/174 "2020-03-05T08:32:05Z")
> [@Neeri\_Norian](#): > > I’m not sure which I’m sad about more, the fact that people are so easily trolled or that even the most over the top idiocy I can come up with is indistinguishable from Sabus/Naari/whatever’s actual posting. If what you say is true, I find it incredibly disingenous and disrespectul to the community and the volunteer moderators who give their time to (try) keeping this a civil place of discussion. That you would feel attacking people through deceptive mimicry and satirical hostility to try and ‘prove your case’ is a sad way of dealing with the situation. I really don’t think anyone appreciates the waste of time they must feel after engaging with this ongoing charade… however to each their own and I can only speak for myself. I feel a need to take a bath, this thread has left a bad stink… ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/175 "2020-03-05T08:44:25Z")
> [@Neeri\_Norian](#): > > he probably just wants to grief newbies like all the bittervets Surely you are also a bittervet? ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/176 "2020-03-05T08:52:59Z")
> [@Neeri\_Norian](#): > > I make a Sabus parody alt, everyone believes it. > > I escalate the parody, thinking surely this will be one step too far and nobody will believe it, and everyone believes it. Nice try Sabus. I don’t think forum alts are usually online and in the ICANP home system. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/177 "2020-03-05T15:54:39Z")
> [@Ugren\_Okaski](#): > > Nice try Sabus. I don’t think forum alts are usually online and in the ICANP home system. … I give up. I openly say “this is my parody alt” and people _still_ think it’s Sabus. Can we just ban him already and give ICANP to someone more qualified? ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/178 "2020-03-05T16:03:28Z")
It’s harder to deal with him once there’s a known sockpuppet impersonating him even if it’s an acknowledged parody. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/179 "2020-03-05T16:04:33Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > I give up. I openly say “this is my parody alt” and people _still_ think it’s Sabus. Oh, I missed the post where you said it was _your_ alt… Well, I for one did believe Neeri Norian was Sabus Narian. Same ■■■■ posting with exact same “argumentation” and he even is in ICANP too… Why would anyone other than him behave like that? Why would _you_ do that? What do you _think_ you accomplished doing that? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/180 "2020-03-05T16:10:14Z")
> [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > Why would _you_ do that? Mockery, because I thought it would be obvious that I’m just trolling him and nobody would take it seriously. But once that failed the goal was demonstrating that he is such an utter {censored} that no matter how over the top a parody is everyone, including his corp members, will still believe that it is him. > It’s harder to deal with him once there’s a known sockpuppet impersonating him even if it’s an acknowledged parody. Disagree. When a person is literally indistinguishable, even to leaders of his own corp, from a deliberate parody then it is very clearly established that his credibility is zero. All you have to do now is point to the parody and tell him to STFU. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/181 "2020-03-05T16:14:52Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Mockery, because I thought it would be obvious that I’m just trolling him and nobody would take it seriously. Not at all. On the contrary, it made perfect sense that you were him. He **is** like that. It did’t look like you were exaggerating at all. You were behaving _exactly_ like he does on a regular basis. You cannot mock him anymore than he does himself, or at least I wouldn’t know how to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/182 "2020-03-05T16:17:14Z")
> [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > You cannot mock him anymore than he does himself, or at least I wouldn’t know how to do it. Which is what we have all now learned and been horrified by. But now “you’re such an idiot that even a deliberate troll can’t be worse than you” is a very nice reason to tell him to STFU and go away. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/183 "2020-03-05T16:21:35Z")
Any sufficiently advanced troll is indistinguishable from a genuine kook, and the viewpoints of even the most extreme crank are indistinguishable from sufficiently advanced satire ~ Variant of Poe’s Law ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/184 "2020-03-05T17:04:14Z")
And any community that gets its laughs by being trolls or parody accounts will soon find itself inundated with real idiots who think they are in good company. ~Variant of Descartes quote ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/185 "2020-03-05T23:34:02Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Which is what we have all now learned and been horrified by. But now “you’re such an idiot that even a deliberate troll can’t be worse than you” is a very nice reason to tell him to STFU and go away. Hmmm, I don’t think it works like that ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/186 "2020-03-05T23:35:26Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Hmmm, I don’t think it works like that I know you don’t, because you’re utterly delusional. But that level of delusion is why you got kicked out of your alliance and why your members are fleeing ICANP. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/187 "2020-03-05T23:36:47Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > I know you don’t, because you’re utterly delusional. But that level of delusion is why you got kicked out of your alliance and why your members are fleeing ICANP. Not really, we had a few people drop but that happens, open door corp you know. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/188 "2020-03-05T23:40:36Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > Not really, we had a few people drop but that happens, open door corp you know. “A few people” that just purely by coincidence happened to be your former officers, the people who a successful corp depends on keeping. The fact that you think you’re winning here is hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/189 "2020-03-06T00:22:27Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > “A few people” that just purely by coincidence happened to be your former officers, the people who a successful corp depends on keeping. The fact that you think you’re winning here is hilarious. It’s like a caterpillar turning into a butterfly, we are not ‘winning’ we are transforming. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738/190 "2020-03-06T00:34:06Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > It’s like a caterpillar turning into a butterfly, we are not ‘winning’ we are transforming. By kicking out everyone who doesn’t join your weird religious cult and buy a copy of your book? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/sico-is-no-longer-a-target-for-me-icanp-still-is/223738.md?page=9)