# Siege Green - Manufacturing and Ship Blueprint Updates

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747>\
**Category:** Balance and Mechanics\
**Tags:** feedback, official, industry\
**Created:** [April 13, 2022, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747 "2022-04-13T11:00:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![CCP\_Aurora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_aurora/32/394780_2.png) [@CCP\_Aurora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Aurora)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/1 "2022-04-13T11:00:19Z")

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Greetings Capsuleers,

A year ago we made a [Significant Update to Industry](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/a-significant-update-to-industry), where many higher end ships saw new materials added to their build components. These materials helped to create additional value for various activities in New Eden and gave us the ability to more finely tune manufacturing costs when necessary. Since that time we’ve been continuously monitoring how the ecosystem has adjusted and, with this update, we’re tuning the build material costs of these ships to bring them down after a period of elevated prices.

The goals of these changes are:

- Reduce low level PI demand
- Reduce Faction and Pirate ship manufacturing costs
- Greatly reduce Dreadnaught manufacturing costs
- Reduce other capital and supercapital ship manufacturing costs
- Reduce logistics requirements for capital and supercapital ships

Please see the [spreadsheet we provided with the full list of blueprint material and component changes](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/aws/community/IndustryChanges_May2022_EN1v2.xlsx), as there are way too many of them for me to try listing in this forum post.

Update: Added a new version at 15:26, fixed a few incorrect names in the spreadsheet.

The [SDE has also been updated](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/aws/community/sde-SINGULARITY.zip) so you can view the changes there as well (Hi Steve).

This post is a call for feedback! The numbers in this spreadsheet are a starting point and are not final - changes will be made over the next couple weeks as we head towards release based on the feedback you provide. Please let us know your thoughts on the values here, how you think they will impact your manufacturing costs and what could be shifted to bring ships in line with your price expectations.

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**Author:** ![Romon\_Inaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/romon_inaken/32/436107_2.png) [@Romon\_Inaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Romon_Inaken)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/2 "2022-04-13T15:05:05Z")

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Link to the spreadsheet is dead

EDIT: Works now, thanks Aurora 🙂

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Aurora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_aurora/32/394780_2.png) [@CCP\_Aurora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Aurora)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/3 "2022-04-13T15:06:01Z")

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Working on getting a fixed url! Give me just a few minutes.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/4 "2022-04-13T15:06:50Z")

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It worked for me

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**Author:** ![Jon\_Pilgrim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jon_pilgrim/32/315821_2.png) [@Jon\_Pilgrim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jon_Pilgrim)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/5 "2022-04-13T15:08:43Z")

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No rebalance for JF blueprints?

EDIT: Never mind, I didn’t see that the JFs are listed on Subcapital tab…

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/6 "2022-04-13T15:08:56Z")

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> [@CCP\_Aurora](#):
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> Hi Steve

grumble grumble grumble. (on it 😃 )

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Paradox](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_paradox/32/290493_2.png) [@CCP\_Paradox](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Paradox)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/7 "2022-04-13T15:12:40Z")

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Blame me, I had all Indy ships in that tab then decided to move the capitals but only did this to the Rorqual in the end. :facepalm:

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**Author:** ![Hannibal\_Barga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hannibal_barga/32/315820_2.png) [@Hannibal\_Barga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hannibal_Barga)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/8 "2022-04-13T15:13:13Z")

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Spreadsheet now working and with thanks.

Also for feedback purpose:  
Playing since 2004 neverstopped playing indy and that applies even to when we had to mine in BS back in the days.  
Was able to by my self pop out from mining to full fit T2 near 10 dreads a week and the only time i literally gave up on indy was after the indy thrown into trash can update CCP made.

Yet will give it a look and i hope the new prod chain is reasonnable, cause nothing is more enjoyable then a counter dreadbomb.

Thx mate for fast update of the link 😉

Ps: It’s not a sand box anymore but it’s the game that fits the best my gameplay style, plus 15+ year of CCP shenanigans gets you used to it.

O7

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**Author:** ![Hannibal\_Barga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hannibal_barga/32/315820_2.png) [@Hannibal\_Barga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hannibal_Barga)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/9 "2022-04-13T15:14:02Z")

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This post proves that there are stil some humans in CCP 😛

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**Author:** ![Patroclus\_Philippus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/patroclus_philippus/32/371771_2.png) [@Patroclus\_Philippus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Patroclus_Philippus)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/10 "2022-04-13T15:18:32Z")

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_Cries in Vehement_

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**Author:** ![Tyrion\_Isimazu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tyrion_isimazu/32/310913_2.png) [@Tyrion\_Isimazu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tyrion_Isimazu)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/11 "2022-04-13T15:18:37Z")

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WTB current TQ values next to the proposed changes.

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/12 "2022-04-13T15:18:41Z")

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Interesting levels of component reductions there. Good to see that capital production should finally become viable again.

Could you please make these spreadsheets available on Office Online or Google Sheets? This would make so much easier to share this information and check it without having to download a humongous file first.

Would have also been nice if you had included the old values so that one can actually compare the changes in the file.

![REDNES](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/6/5/96524d53cb22e8d34dff925203908c55729b363e.png)

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**Author:** ![Winzentowitsch\_Madeveda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/winzentowitsch_madeveda/32/381406_2.png) [@Winzentowitsch\_Madeveda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Winzentowitsch_Madeveda)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/13 "2022-04-13T15:20:07Z")

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Time to invest in Fortizars and Tataras

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**Author:** ![Quantum\_Ace](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quantum_ace/32/395460_2.png) [@Quantum\_Ace](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quantum_Ace)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/14 "2022-04-13T15:23:40Z")

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Half of the ZIrnitra changes aren’t documented? Changes to Capital Ultratidal Entropic Mounting, Capital Radiation Conversion Unit, Capital Absorption Thruster Array?

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**Author:** ![Hairpins\_Blueprint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hairpins_blueprint/32/272385_2.png) [@Hairpins\_Blueprint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hairpins_Blueprint)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/15 "2022-04-13T15:25:35Z")

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> [@CCP\_Aurora](#):
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> Reduce logistics requirements for capital and supercapital ships

Please Please reduce component size and market tax on the sale of components&reactions so we can have more movement of those instead of the cumbersome 1000 alts vertical integration of production.

Also, the Trigger Neurolink Conduits price should maybe be also cut in half? still feels like bpc’s will be worthless with 1B+ in just materials for build a battleship, feels like too much.

Love the direction : )

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**Author:** ![Death\_Killer21](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/death_killer21/32/484373_2.png) [@Death\_Killer21](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Death_Killer21)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/16 "2022-04-13T15:27:40Z")

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These changes are a step in the right direction for sure, My question is though, Can we do something about the FTL’s? They are so exepsnive

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Paragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_paragon/32/305967_2.png) [@CCP\_Paragon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Paragon)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/17 "2022-04-13T15:28:40Z")

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**Update: 15:26**

Uploaded a new version of the spreadsheet to fix a couple of incorrect names.

[NEW SPREADSHEET](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/aws/community/IndustryChanges_May2022_EN1v2.xlsx)

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**Author:** ![Aliventi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aliventi/32/389858_2.png) [@Aliventi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aliventi)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/18 "2022-04-13T15:28:46Z")

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Can you please remove the pirate BPC drop rate increase from Phoebe? The pirate ships were available but not oppressively numerous when the BPC cost, not industry costs, was the major driving factor.

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**Author:** ![TeamGreen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teamgreen/32/388595_2.png) [@TeamGreen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TeamGreen)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/19 "2022-04-13T15:32:04Z")

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I can see some very nice explosions coming that way!  
Very good idea!

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**Author:** ![Alexander\_Blessed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_blessed/32/435774_2.png) [@Alexander\_Blessed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Blessed)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/siege-green-manufacturing-and-ship-blueprint-updates/357747/20 "2022-04-13T15:32:22Z")

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I can’t tell you how happy I am with these changes, if I see you at Vegas again this year I’m giving you a big sloppy kiss. (more likely a hug haha)

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