# Singularity Accessibility Update **URL:** \ **Category:** Test Server Feedback\ **Tags:** singularity, official\ **Created:** [August 30, 2023, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952 "2023-08-30T10:37:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/211 "2023-08-31T23:53:05Z")
> [@siiftun1857](#): > > There is a majority of your references are cutting others sentence in half or simply ignore context around it. All your problems are already answered before. Regardless your mind of restricted view can understand it not, there are no more explain for you. I’m not the one that needs things explained to them though 🙂 ![giphy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/3/5313cf68c125708e4b7dc4b87e8bb27abca11d58.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Rico\_Shikkoken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rico_shikkoken/32/383059_2.png) [@Rico\_Shikkoken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rico_Shikkoken)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/212 "2023-08-31T23:55:32Z")
It makes no difference to you if you are hunting someone running a particular site whether that person had tested their ability to do that site before or if they are winging it. It was a great way for people to try things out and expand what they can do in game. All that happens now is fewer people try things out, fewer people for you to hunt doing a particular form of content and that is bad for the game. People who got to try things out on the test server and already have worked out how a certain site works etc, have an inherent advantage now and the content is less accessible to newcomers who can’t afford to test a new fit in a T6 abyssal or something by putting their hands together and praying their setup is good enough or who want to run a pochven/wormhole site. ---
**Author:** ![Ticklefights](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ticklefights/32/384550_2.png) [@Ticklefights](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ticklefights)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/213 "2023-08-31T23:55:53Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > I’m not the one that needs things explained to them though 🙂 i doubt any of us here right now is qualified to explain anything to you without a masters in special education ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/214 "2023-08-31T23:57:24Z")
> [@Rico\_Shikkoken](#): > > the content is less accessible to newcomers who can’t afford to test a new fit in a T6 abyssal Its almost like they are instead meant to work their way up through the tiers learning as they go and working out what they will need for T6’s instead of being handed a T6 fit to just play around with on SISI ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/215 "2023-08-31T23:58:33Z")
> [@Ticklefights](#): > > > [@Cypherous](#): > > > > I’m not the one that needs things explained to them though 🙂 > > i doubt any of us here right now is qualified to explain anything to you without a masters in special education. And there go the ad-hominem that normally appears once someone realises they actually have no more arguments left to make 🙂 Thank you for proving my point though ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/216 "2023-09-01T00:01:27Z")
I see no issue with them treating sisi like any other video game creator and use sisi when necessary for them, which is the whole point. Eve was the only game ive ever seen have unfettered access to sisi, but even then there would be folks crying cause certain items/ships werent seeded or what not. Glad to see it reduced to what it is ---
**Author:** ![Rico\_Shikkoken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rico_shikkoken/32/383059_2.png) [@Rico\_Shikkoken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rico_Shikkoken)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/217 "2023-09-01T00:03:17Z")
Albion online also has a test server, other games don’t need it because dying doesn’t carry the same level of consequence as it does in full loot pvp games… ---
**Author:** ![Hexanow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hexanow/32/384658_2.png) [@Hexanow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hexanow)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/218 "2023-09-01T00:03:28Z")
I see people can bringing up arguments they already used again so they will never running out of arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Ticklefights](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ticklefights/32/384550_2.png) [@Ticklefights](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ticklefights)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/219 "2023-09-01T00:09:58Z")
> [@Rico\_Shikkoken](#): > > Albion online also has a test server, other games don’t need it because dying doesn’t carry the same level of consequence as it does in full loot pvp games… this exactly, OSRS/current has test servers up 24/7 escape from tarkov has test functions 24/7 even everquest a game from 1999 has test servers up 24/7 and the only penalty to dying in that game now is losing exp (u used to lose all ur items until u grabbed ur body) ---
**Author:** ![MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milint_arc_trooper/32/475857_2.png) [@MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MILINT_ARC_Trooper)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/220 "2023-09-01T02:05:32Z")
Yeah at minimum a limited window for a month. ---
**Author:** ![X\_ian\_Orillian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x_ian_orillian/32/384650_2.png) [@X\_ian\_Orillian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/X_ian_Orillian)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/222 "2023-09-01T03:17:09Z")
> [@Hexanow](#): > > you would _do_ better _to_ really care about the future of SISI, rather than spreading hate for ~~_your_~~ personal gains. Historically though, there’s always drama around Sisi, for one reason or another… Differences in playstyles aside, anyone who has played this game as long as I have should be truly shocked if sisi is actually taken down and not replaced by something similar, as a test bed. If you claim not to be shocked or surprised, I call you a bad actor and move on with my life… honestly not worth the trouble I’ll take a chance repeating myself though and say we really should save the pitchforks for after fanfest, I have a gut feeling information is being withheld that might make sisi being shut down an easier pill to swallow, with whatever they have planned for the big anniversary. maybe they will announce a steroid injection to the simulation mode in fitting window? like actual simulation mode. far fetched, but eve is a game for people with patience and foresight. kinda crazy if they stick to their guns on this one and just lob sisi off so unceremoniously like a bum leg ---
**Author:** ![Brandon\_Plumicorn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brandon_plumicorn/32/446792_2.png) [@Brandon\_Plumicorn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brandon_Plumicorn)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/223 "2023-09-01T12:28:15Z")
this thread is why eve doesnt listen to their players lol ---
**Author:** ![Alpho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alpho/32/384735_2.png) [@Alpho](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alpho)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/224 "2023-09-01T13:11:43Z")
so… For 9 years my steam review was “recommended”. From now on its not. [[Steam Community :: EVE Online](https://steamcommunity.com/app/8500/reviews/)](you are welcome to do your part) ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/225 "2023-09-01T13:33:47Z")
I’m sure the devs are loading revolvers over it ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/226 "2023-09-01T13:34:37Z")
> [@Rico\_Shikkoken](#): > > Albion online also has a test server, other games don’t need it because dying doesn’t carry the same level of consequence as it does in full loot pvp game Which is a terrible excuse to need one lol You learn by doing > [@Ticklefights](#): > > OSRS/current has test servers up 24/7 > escape from tarkov has test functions 24/7 And? Those aren’t EVE so why would them having a test server be relevant? > [@Alpho](#): > > From now on its not. lol so SISI was the hill you wanted to die on for a review? Its a good job those reviews don’t actually affect anything lol ---
**Author:** ![Salartarium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salartarium/32/468818_2.png) [@Salartarium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salartarium)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/227 "2023-09-01T16:13:21Z")
Testing on SiSi is already heated. The last “focused” test in regards to the new faction warfare frontlines resulting in a lot of arguing over how the leaderboards were recorded. CCP still has Chaos and other servers and with this change I think the general bugs, some of which have gone undocumented for years, will not get fixed. The feedback process for testing has been opaque and we are without the usual bug reporting tools. ESI being disabled on SiSi means third party devs can’t bug test new changes and new content is more likely to break it. I simply don’t see how having less access to the right tools for everyone is better. Even if the random player will spend more time monkeying around than an internal QA tester. Even if they have to make people sign NDA’s or mandate that people have to actually bug test and make so many reports there should still be some general access for layman outside of mass tests. ---
**Author:** ![Brandon\_Plumicorn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brandon_plumicorn/32/446792_2.png) [@Brandon\_Plumicorn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brandon_Plumicorn)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/228 "2023-09-01T16:51:52Z")
it would be great if bugs were actually fixed ---
**Author:** ![Flavious\_Run](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flavious_run/32/437335_2.png) [@Flavious\_Run](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flavious_Run)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/229 "2023-09-01T23:44:32Z")
Unironically lol’ed to this. The man gave a negative STEAM review because there is no test server 💀 Your steam review is joining the ranks of other reviews not recommending Eve because there is pvp or that a subscription based mmo is not completely free. ---
**Author:** ![Boags](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boags/32/382554_2.png) [@Boags](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boags)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/230 "2023-09-02T00:47:56Z")
“newcomers who can’t afford to test a new fit in a T6 abyssal or something” Thats exactly why sisi is turned off… If you dont risk it, then there is no reward… T6 is not for “newcomers” ---
**Author:** ![Malice\_Redeemer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malice_redeemer/32/384983_2.png) [@Malice\_Redeemer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malice_Redeemer)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/231 "2023-09-02T00:49:04Z")
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