# Singularity Accessibility Update **URL:** \ **Category:** Test Server Feedback\ **Tags:** singularity, official\ **Created:** [August 30, 2023, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952 "2023-08-30T10:37:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Brandon\_Plumicorn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brandon_plumicorn/32/446792_2.png) [@Brandon\_Plumicorn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brandon_Plumicorn)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/45 "2023-08-30T13:54:18Z")
i mean, your are the one spouting insults here. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Swift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_swift/32/381987_2.png) [@CCP\_Swift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Swift)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/46 "2023-08-30T13:55:25Z")
> [@Salartarium](#): > > I’m a little concerned about this change. With no testing server and no web tool to report bugs, there’s simply going to be a lot less player testing and more bugs will slip through. With this new dynamic, the plan is to have testing periods for Singularity to test larger features where we can meaningfully address bugs and feedback. I would also like to add that for those dedicated bug hunters out there, the ISD ECAID bug hunting program is accepting applications: [Volunteer teams - Volunteer System](https://volunteers.eveonline.com/home/teams) ---
**Author:** ![Smuff\_Gallente](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smuff_gallente/32/374511_2.png) [@Smuff\_Gallente](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smuff_Gallente)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/47 "2023-08-30T13:55:44Z")
This is the point YOU ARE NOT MEANT OT TEST STUFF WITHOUT RISK… ---
**Author:** ![Brandon\_Plumicorn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brandon_plumicorn/32/446792_2.png) [@Brandon\_Plumicorn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brandon_Plumicorn)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/48 "2023-08-30T13:57:49Z")
I mean. We reported like 800 issues with photcrap before it was pushed as a feature (that you had to go into the options to turn off mind you) and you still pushed it as main. it still has bugs from release. ---
**Author:** ![Brandon\_Plumicorn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brandon_plumicorn/32/446792_2.png) [@Brandon\_Plumicorn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brandon_Plumicorn)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/50 "2023-08-30T13:59:18Z")
Yes. which is why its a _test server_ its for testing things. ---
**Author:** ![Cendric\_De\_Credsiu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cendric_de_credsiu/32/409668_2.png) [@Cendric\_De\_Credsiu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cendric_De_Credsiu)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/51 "2023-08-30T13:59:50Z")
There are two main issues with closing the test server this way. One as others have stated it will exasperate the wealth disparity in the game. New PvE content will get released and only those who can afford it will be able to test it and know what fits will work ect. Will that get trickled down to the rest of the game yes but not until the folks who already have trillions have made even more trillions of ISK. Now is this really that big of a deal not really, just exasperates an existing issue and is honestly a symptom of a bigger issue. The second issue I see with this is the test server allowed players to see or experience content that they would otherwise never get to experience. While also not a big issue is something that I think the devs should consider and maybe look at moving the Epic arcs out of Null and Low sec all together and into high sec. Making the pirate faction areas more accessible to all players not just who ever holds Sov in the area ect. Also not a big issue just something to think about. ---
**Author:** ![Brandon\_Plumicorn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brandon_plumicorn/32/446792_2.png) [@Brandon\_Plumicorn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brandon_Plumicorn)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/52 "2023-08-30T14:01:17Z")
this is the point i was trying to make. people who can already afford to risk it will get the rewards. those who cannot are gatekept ---
**Author:** ![Legend083](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/legend083/32/500197_2.png) [@Legend083](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Legend083)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/53 "2023-08-30T14:01:56Z")
a badge or medal for participating on this activities o your character on the main server would be enough. maybe a pack of cerebral accelerators on the main server if you complete something important in SiSi ---
**Author:** ![Tomahawk\_Missile\_BigWaveSurfr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tomahawk_missile_bigwavesurfr/32/384408_2.png) [@Tomahawk\_Missile\_BigWaveSurfr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tomahawk_Missile_BigWaveSurfr)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/54 "2023-08-30T14:02:34Z")
Maybe those people with great wealth took more risks than you in the long run. They didnt amass great wealth by sitting around on the test server that for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Brandon\_Plumicorn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brandon_plumicorn/32/446792_2.png) [@Brandon\_Plumicorn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brandon_Plumicorn)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/55 "2023-08-30T14:04:39Z")
or they just brought plex. or joined someone who already had money. or did content people had already figured out _by_ testing ---
**Author:** ![Peace\_For\_Man](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peace_for_man/32/374683_2.png) [@Peace\_For\_Man](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peace_For_Man)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/56 "2023-08-30T14:06:03Z")
> [@CCP\_Arcade](#): > > Often bugs that are reported by players on Singularity have already found their way onto Tranquility. UMMM, AND??? that means there needs to be more, time to see the content right?,… Not ohhh heres everything on tq and sisi for the patch the same day ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/57 "2023-08-30T14:14:00Z")
> [@The\_Huntard](#): > > “how many paladins can i multibox and still be effective clearing the site,” And how is that related to finding bugs? > [@The\_Huntard](#): > > "whats a dread escalation look like, will lancers cause escalation? Which would be done during a specific test window, the only part needed would be to know if things cause expected results > [@The\_Huntard](#): > > “does my cheap armor fit paladin with claymore linking armor links because none of the armor burst ships can even get close to 3.6k ehps?” Thats what TQ is for, not sure why you need SISI to test that > [@Amaranth\_Amatin](#): > > Who tf thinks this is something good to brag about??? They aren’t bragging, they are stating a fact, because most people aren’t actually looking for bugs when they use SISI > [@Aria\_Yatollila](#): > > another downgrade of life quality the game used to have How is this a downgrade? SISI is for finding bugs, not for you to play with toys risk free > [@Creocore\_Khamez](#): > > Test server was great for testing high value fits that i couldn’t afford to lose testing on TQ. Which is part of the reason it needed to go away, people weren’t using it for its intended purpose > [@M1k3y\_Koontz](#): > > losing access to a place where they can be deciphered in a controlled manner is disappointing The disappointing part is people using it for learning instead of its intended purpose, finding bugs > [@Serena\_Anderson](#): > > Really gutted by this utterly insane decision. SISI has always been a way for us, the players, to test out current ingame mechanics and new fittings. We use it to practice PVP, from frigates to capital fights. Which, again, is _not_ its actual reason for existing > [@Brandon\_Plumicorn](#): > > its for testing things. Its for finding bugs, actual testing, not for testing how mechanics work or for testing optimal fits, which is what lots of people were actually using it for > [@Brandon\_Plumicorn](#): > > those who cannot are gatekept Its naive to think that guides won’t be created for content or that people won’t publish optimal fits for things, nothing will really change other than the fact that all testing will need to be done while actually risking a ship instead of getting to run the site 100 times and explode each time without it costing you anything > [@Peace\_For\_Man](#): > > UMMM, AND??? that means there needs to be more, time to see the content right? Yes, and there will be testing windows for things they actually want your input in and for you to test to find bugs ---
**Author:** ![Brandon\_Plumicorn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brandon_plumicorn/32/446792_2.png) [@Brandon\_Plumicorn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brandon_Plumicorn)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/58 "2023-08-30T14:16:29Z")
in response to my quote becuase i dont know how to work this ancient forum system. Unless they dont make a guide for it, and keep it to themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Era\_kanath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/era_kanath/32/461913_2.png) [@Era\_kanath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Era_kanath)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/59 "2023-08-30T14:17:25Z")
Seeing as though mass tests are usually 3-4am my time, I’ll never be able to actually test or bug report on SISI. No more reference shots of ships/structures for content creators, no more sound recording for modding, no more youtube vids of showing off particle effects or Titan DD’s. I’m genuinely disappointment, this is a massive step backwards for the community. ---
**Author:** ![Juan\_Rotsuda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/juan_rotsuda/32/377612_2.png) [@Juan\_Rotsuda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Juan_Rotsuda)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/60 "2023-08-30T14:18:45Z")
“Testing high value fits in a safe environment” was probably what CCP was trying to kill this whole time. Not just for PVE krabbing, but also high stakes PVP. Still, that does mean that only those with deep wallets can experiment freely anymore. Hard to test how to counter lancer plays if you can’t afford or fly one, or have someone you can trust at the helm. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/61 "2023-08-30T14:19:23Z")
> [@Brandon\_Plumicorn](#): > > in response to my quote becuase i dont know how to work this ancient forum system. > > Unless they dont make a guide for it, and keep it to themselves In which case get there and figure it out, why are you expecting handouts? ---
**Author:** ![Shade\_Millith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shade_millith/32/384412_2.png) [@Shade\_Millith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shade_Millith)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/62 "2023-08-30T14:27:26Z")
> [@CCP\_Arcade](#): > > These days Singularity is mostly used to test deployments and architecture changes. Often bugs that are reported by players on Singularity have already found their way onto Tranquility. The hope is that by focusing testing on new features we can limit the number of bugs that reach Tranquility. This makes no sense. “If they have less time to test a new patch on the Test server, there’ll be less bugs. Also, if they can’t test when finding a new bug already present on Tranq, those bugs will be found/fixed faster.” There’s no reason to not do focused testing on SiSi while leaving it up and running, unless there’s other reasons. You even mention yourself that those events have happened in the past. Removing an important tool to fix issues with the game, and for general testing of gameplay mechanics, is a negative for the community. ---
**Author:** ![PixyWarrior\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pixywarrior_ellecon/32/456340_2.png) [@PixyWarrior\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PixyWarrior_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/63 "2023-08-30T14:28:11Z")
Love the salt this is producing. 🧂 🧂 🍿 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Boags](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boags/32/382554_2.png) [@Boags](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boags)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/64 "2023-08-30T14:30:04Z")
Welcome to Eve buddy ---
**Author:** ![Tommy\_Arrano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tommy_arrano/32/406838_2.png) [@Tommy\_Arrano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tommy_Arrano)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952/65 "2023-08-30T14:30:55Z")
at least final question is easy because of pyfa. about first one - you can just dualbox at least. After you afford to replace both pallys. If it went good → add one more pally. also I don’t think dread escalation wave will kill lancer if you prepare for it (like, not sieging while warping full heavy armor fleet with nestors to the site. cannot do these kind of tests because of being solo player? then how you plan to operate lancers at all?) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/singularity-accessibility-update/417952.md?page=4)