# Skillers in the Abyss **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** official\ **Created:** [April 27, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933 "2020-04-27T15:43:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/23 "2020-04-27T17:28:10Z")
Calm down kid, you can do these dailies in a T1 ezpz. ---
**Author:** ![Isagar\_Onnlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isagar_onnlin/32/248825_2.png) [@Isagar\_Onnlin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isagar_Onnlin)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/24 "2020-04-27T17:31:44Z")
What? Tier ones? Dude I do…or I should say USED to do Tier 4s and 5s. Even if you did EVERYTHING right with a good fit in a T5 PRE-NERF sometimes RNGeezus would still rail you up the bum without consent. I don’t even bother post-nerf. Tier 1s are not worth my time. ---
**Author:** ![Vixen\_Vix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixen_vix/32/384059_2.png) [@Vixen\_Vix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixen_Vix)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/25 "2020-04-27T17:34:50Z")
It’s called: ISK sink 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/26 "2020-04-27T17:36:12Z")
> [@Isagar\_Onnlin](#): > > What? Tier ones? Dude I do…or I should say USED to do Tier 4s and 5s. I don’t care. CCP isn’t forcing you to do T4s and T5s. They’re just making you kill any kind of Abyssal NPC. If you don’t want to risk your ship in T5s, don’t do T5s. You can do T1s and still complete the dailies. > [@Vixen\_Vix](#): > > ISK sink That’s not what an ISK Sink is. You, personally, losing money doesn’t make something an ISK sink. That ISK needs to be taken OUT of the game (for example, Broker’s Fees that go to NPC corporations), in order for it to considered an ISK sink. Spending money on the market to buy modules just transfers that isk from you to another player. ---
**Author:** ![Isagar\_Onnlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isagar_onnlin/32/248825_2.png) [@Isagar\_Onnlin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isagar_Onnlin)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/27 "2020-04-27T17:40:00Z")
It amuses me no end when people say they don’t care. If you didn’t at least to some extent care, you’d have not said a peep, so you’ve already irrevocably proven that you at least at one point cared even if perhaps you don’t care now. We shall see. Or not. ---
**Author:** ![Gleb\_Koskov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gleb_koskov/32/374138_2.png) [@Gleb\_Koskov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gleb_Koskov)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/28 "2020-04-27T17:41:09Z")
I’d prefer if these triglavian cowards didn’t hide behind masks. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/29 "2020-04-27T17:44:18Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > > > is the suspect flag on exit not a thing anymore? > > [Nope.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/fgua2f/abyssal_traces_all_show_as_yellow_now_or_you_dont/) But, its still possible to travel thru the [Proving Conduits](https://zkillboard.com/kills/abyssalpvp/) and find 1v1’s _(e.g., get hammered by bling fits and heads full of implants.)_ Thats right, how could we forget the 1v1 PvP Instance with a PvE Queue. Even the Wow clones are lolling on that one. Except they nerfed the sandbox (ECM) to make it work, it stopped being funny then. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/30 "2020-04-27T17:44:52Z")
> [@Isagar\_Onnlin](#): > > It amuses me no end when people say they don’t care. > > If you didn’t at least to some extent care, you’d have not said a peep, so you’ve already You seem to have problem with reading comprehension. I don’t care that you used to run T5s. I DO care that you’re spewing nonsense about how CCP “nerfed” Abyssal ships (without providing ANY proof, btw), and spreading lies that may cause a newer player to learn the wrong thing. > [@Isagar\_Onnlin](#): > > So you **nerf the hell out of Abyssal ships** and then want people to go into the Abyss, eh? You’re conveniently ignoring the fact that anyone and everyone (even Alphas) can get a cheap Caracal to breeze through T1 Abyssals in order to complete the dailies for SP. ---
**Author:** ![Ihr\_Tod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ihr_tod/32/159009_2.png) [@Ihr\_Tod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ihr_Tod)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/31 "2020-04-27T17:55:42Z")
check out some videos. you can do T1 abyss as a day one eve player so no one is excluded from this event! ---
**Author:** ![Ihr\_Tod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ihr_tod/32/159009_2.png) [@Ihr\_Tod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ihr_Tod)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/32 "2020-04-27T17:59:19Z")
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**Author:** ![Sira\_Fiinikkusu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sira_fiinikkusu/32/200877_2.png) [@Sira\_Fiinikkusu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sira_Fiinikkusu)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/33 "2020-04-27T18:00:42Z")
wait i must have missed something besides the 20% hardener nerf what nerf are we looking at that has to do with abyss? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/34 "2020-04-27T18:03:32Z")
That’s fantastic. The only issue I have is that there are no stats for the Abyssal Small Shield booster. But the fit looks fairly affordable, It’s a Worm, so even Alphas will be able to take advantage of the missiles + light drones. And it seems easy enough to run. I didn’t watch the entire video, but skipped around and it doesn’t seem like there were any real times when your tank was pressured. Thanks for showing us a video of a T1 site being run. Alpha players should have no problem with this daily event. If anything, it’s vastly easier than the Guristas Hunt event. ---
**Author:** ![ddd\_Makbema](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ddd_makbema/32/214033_2.png) [@ddd\_Makbema](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ddd_Makbema)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/35 "2020-04-27T18:06:58Z")
With a 10 mil kestrel fit, a day 1 alpha can do a dark t1 with no trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Isagar\_Onnlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isagar_onnlin/32/248825_2.png) [@Isagar\_Onnlin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isagar_Onnlin)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/36 "2020-04-27T18:11:52Z")
Ah proving again you care! I win my bet! Also foolish mortal. Given that virtually ALL Abyssal ships use some form of resists REGARDLESS of tank type AND given that ALL resists got the NERFHAMMER! then I hardly need to prove a damn thing do it? Do continue to prove yourself a fool who shills for free and a CCP sycophant though! Since EVE is less entertaining. You’ll do. So DANCE FOR ME MONKEY! DANCE! ---
**Author:** ![Sira\_Fiinikkusu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sira_fiinikkusu/32/200877_2.png) [@Sira\_Fiinikkusu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sira_Fiinikkusu)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/37 "2020-04-27T18:14:59Z")
that explains why i didnt notice a difference, ran T5s before the update and still run them now. 20% less on a hardener is 2% less resist roughly on the module itself. Hardly something to cry about. ---
**Author:** ![Isagar\_Onnlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isagar_onnlin/32/248825_2.png) [@Isagar\_Onnlin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isagar_Onnlin)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/38 "2020-04-27T18:17:07Z")
Ah at last an INTELLIGENT response/comment! Thx! So please, do say on! Has your combat loss ratio changed at all? ---
**Author:** ![Sira\_Fiinikkusu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sira_fiinikkusu/32/200877_2.png) [@Sira\_Fiinikkusu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sira_Fiinikkusu)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/39 "2020-04-27T18:18:54Z")
in abyss? no. I have yet to lose one since the update. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/40 "2020-04-27T18:20:09Z")
Ok, so all I’m getting from this is that you don’t know what you’re talking about and just want to play the victim card. EVEN WHEN people have shown actual video evidence to the contrary. Have fun, kid. ---
**Author:** ![Isagar\_Onnlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isagar_onnlin/32/248825_2.png) [@Isagar\_Onnlin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isagar_Onnlin)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/41 "2020-04-27T18:20:22Z")
Excellent. Well. Maybe I’ll give it a go. Thanks for the intelligent response. I was seriously beginning to lose hope. ---
**Author:** ![Isagar\_Onnlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isagar_onnlin/32/248825_2.png) [@Isagar\_Onnlin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isagar_Onnlin)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933/42 "2020-04-27T18:20:37Z")
Link alleged video evidence. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skillers-in-the-abyss/235933.md?page=3)