# Skilling is Just a Means of Communication and non-aggressive playstyles **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 6, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086 "2020-03-06T18:17:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/182 "2020-03-13T21:46:27Z")
> [@Tom\_Livingstone](#): > > No salt … ‘before you piss yourself, have a kneejerk reaction and post?’ ?? An accurate description of your obviously panicked use of newbies when you very ignorantly thought that the event somehow made you more of a soft target then you already are. The pixel fear was palatable. 🤣 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/183 "2020-03-13T21:48:04Z")
> [@Astutemaximus\_Nardieu](#): > > As a fairly new player myself, I often think about the health of the game after killing explorers as there just isn’t that many people playing. It’s why I will usually compensate generously and offer advice if they accept a chat invite. That’s quite noble I guess. This is just not my way of seeing things, as I do prefer games to stay true to their nature, even if it leads to their death (that will inevitably happen at some point anyway), rather than “helping to keep the game alive”, by actually not playing the game as I want to play it. If it makes me selfish, so be it, but I see no point in “keeping the game alive” if what I keep alive is not what I actually wanna play to. ---
**Author:** ![Astutemaximus\_Nardieu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/astutemaximus_nardieu/32/254576_2.png) [@Astutemaximus\_Nardieu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Astutemaximus_Nardieu)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/184 "2020-03-13T21:52:54Z")
What makes me think this way isn’t a desire to be noble. It’s self preservation. I like the game and don’t want it to die. Here’s the reality…peak player count is say, 31k players. You can divide that figure by at least four (and that’s being generous) due to alts. In reality, there is no more than around 6k players. I don’t judge others who feel differently and just kill and walk away. Ideally, I’d like it to be that way but if you look up my KB, you’ll see why I am concerned for new players lol ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/185 "2020-03-14T07:33:31Z")
> [@Astutemaximus\_Nardieu](#): > > You can divide that figure by at least four (and that’s being generous) due to alts. Bollocks. ---
**Author:** ![Astutemaximus\_Nardieu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/astutemaximus_nardieu/32/254576_2.png) [@Astutemaximus\_Nardieu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Astutemaximus_Nardieu)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/186 "2020-03-14T17:07:17Z")
Rather than just type the same word to every reply, please explain ‘why’ my comment was bollocks. There is clearly a huge no. of alts in this game and an average of three/four is being generous. Let me ask you this question then, how many players (not alts but players) would you estimate in this game? ---
**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/187 "2020-03-15T02:09:46Z")
> [@Astutemaximus\_Nardieu](#): > > There is clearly a huge no. of alts in this game and an average of three/four is being generous. I honnestly believe it’s the exact opposite tho. There is a huge no. of alts in this game because usually, once someone start to do alts, it’s with a idea of having several ones, rarely just one or two. Meanwhile, there is also a very huge amount of players with only one account, because they could not be bothered to do more. Especially in high-sec with the very casual player base. For example, my corp as approximatively 30 actives players, and on this, only about 5-7 do haves alts. But they have a ton of them. Like at least 10 each. ---
**Author:** ![Astutemaximus\_Nardieu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/astutemaximus_nardieu/32/254576_2.png) [@Astutemaximus\_Nardieu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Astutemaximus_Nardieu)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/188 "2020-03-15T03:19:50Z")
Thank you for your reply. I am asking you because I genuinely don’t know for sure (I am a fairly new player). I am simply going by my experience. All my corp members have 2/3/4 alts. When I try to engage what I believe to be a solo ratter in a WH, 9/10, he has an alt or two cloaked up. It could just be a wormhole thing as this is the game I play. I hope it is this as I really like the game and would like to see it expand. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/189 "2020-03-15T03:32:12Z")
Last time CCP released numbers of accounts per player the number was an average of 1.7 accounts per player, with 2/3 of players only having the 1 account and only 6% of individuals having 4 or more. Having all 3 character slots filled on an account doesn’t influence this number at all, because you can only have 1 character per account online at any time. Admittedly these numbers are 5 years old and while some players run 10’s of accounts they are almost certainly in the minority. ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/190 "2020-03-15T04:34:01Z")
There was some discussion of alt numbers and distribution here: > **[r/Eve - At Least We Know How Many Alts There Are](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3j7nso/at_least_we_know_how_many_alts_there_are/)** > > 199 votes and 423 comments so far on Reddit The issue was somewhat fuzzy around the definition of what constitutes an alt and how to define who has how many. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/191 "2020-03-15T04:43:10Z")
An alt is an account that is used to help you out while concurrently running your “main” account at the same time. By definition, this excludes Alpha accounts as they cannot be ran at the same time as an Omega account or more than one Alpha account. For example, I personally have 17 accounts, of which I only ever run 3 concurrently. Does that mean I have 42 alts? No, because those other accounts are merely placeholders for various other things. Even though I have 17 accounts, my contribution to the total number of players logged in every day on the launcher is still only 3. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/192 "2020-03-15T08:25:10Z")
> [@Astutemaximus\_Nardieu](#): > > Let me ask you this question then, how many players (not alts but players) would you **estimate** in this game? It doesn’t ■■■■■■■ matter. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/193 "2020-03-15T09:48:03Z")
So, the other two braindonors on my main account arent alts? Edit: Nm I actually read the post lol ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/194 "2020-03-15T14:12:16Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > An alt is an account that is used to help you out while concurrently running your “main” account at the same time. By definition, this excludes Alpha accounts as they cannot be ran at the same time as an Omega account or more than one Alpha account. For example, I personally have 17 accounts, of which I only ever run 3 concurrently. Does that mean I have 42 alts? No, because those other accounts are merely placeholders for various other things. Even though I have 17 accounts, my contribution to the total number of players logged in every day on the launcher is still only 3. I have 5 accounts and something like 12 toons on them. I can’t be bothered to deal with the skilling event, even though I have not one, but three PvP mains. ---
**Author:** ![Forum\_Alt\_42137](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_alt_42137/32/161041_2.png) [@Forum\_Alt\_42137](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Alt_42137)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/195 "2020-03-22T20:58:32Z")
This means 1 month of not playing. I mine and dont do PVP. 1 month is just too long. And to all you pvpers, if you are not too chicken, goto low or nul sec and enjoy your pvp fight. But NO you want easy targets because you are too chicken to go for the real pvp fight. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/196 "2020-03-22T21:03:17Z")
> [@Forum\_Alt\_42137](#): > > This means 1 month of not playing. Ok, cool. The miners who aren’t irrationally terrified of PvP will benefit from your absence. In fact, they’d really appreciate it if you quit EVE entirely. > But NO you want easy targets because you are too chicken to go for the real pvp fight. Why don’t you stop making yourself an easy target? There are plenty of ways to defend yourself, ways that are more effective than whining on the forums and trying to insult people into leaving you alone. ---
**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/197 "2020-03-22T21:05:38Z")
> [@Forum\_Alt\_42137](#): > > But NO you want easy targets because you are too chicken to go for the real pvp fight. The SP bonus doesn’t make you any easier of a target. If they would attack you now they would have attacked you before. Maybe fit a tank or mine somewhere quieter. ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/198 "2020-03-22T21:27:55Z")
Calm down, miner. ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/199 "2020-03-22T21:54:20Z")
> [@Forum\_Alt\_42137](#): > > This means 1 month of not playing. Okay, that’s your choice. ---
**Author:** ![Trevor\_Dalech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trevor_dalech/32/410287_2.png) [@Trevor\_Dalech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trevor_Dalech)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/200 "2020-03-23T09:30:28Z")
> [@Fonsui](#): > > it has the potential to leave a good group of the characters in the cold. Similarly, a lot of players don’t like to PVE, I was feeling quite left out in the cold with all the PVE events. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2020, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/201 "2020-04-02T11:58:18Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > Does that mean I have 42 alts? No, because those other accounts are merely placeholders for various other things. Even though I have 17 accounts, my contribution to the total number of players logged in every day on the launcher is still only 3. It is one actually… unless you have each account registered with different email address. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086.md?page=11)