# Skilling is Just a Means of Communication and non-aggressive playstyles **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 6, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086 "2020-03-06T18:17:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/21 "2020-03-06T20:03:31Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Given the quality of players I’ve seen on here in the last year and a half, I don’t see that as a problem. Why pick a fight with one of the good ones that in any forum thread, would have the back of the pvp nature of the game? Seems kind of pointless, where there are plenty of genuinely trash carebears to have a go at instead, ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/22 "2020-03-06T20:03:31Z")
I get it, you think all PvE players are trash; that’s your opinion and that’s fine. I disagree with your opinion, in my opinion not all PvE players are trash, just as not all PvP players are F1 monkeys. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/23 "2020-03-06T20:05:09Z")
I’m not picking a fight unless you’re trying to make this a fight. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > I get it, you think all PvE players are trash; that’s your opinion and that’s fine. Cool, we’ll agree to disagree then. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/24 "2020-03-06T20:12:52Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Why pick a fight with one of the good ones that in any forum thread, would have the back of the pvp nature of the game? > > Seems kind of pointless, where there are plenty of genuinely trash carebears to have a go at instead, It’s far easier to generalise than realise that there are exceptions to the rule. ---
**Author:** ![Nicen\_Jehr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicen_jehr/32/388048_2.png) [@Nicen\_Jehr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicen_Jehr)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/25 "2020-03-06T20:21:11Z")
I’m planning to join FW for the duration of the event. You should too ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/26 "2020-03-06T20:27:46Z")
> [@Fonsui](#): > > This seemingly presents a conundrum for a certain slice of players (or characters) who do not generally, or ever, willingly engage in PvP combat. Bollocks. ---
**Author:** ![Fonsui](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fonsui/32/292570_2.png) [@Fonsui](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fonsui)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/27 "2020-03-06T21:16:05Z")
The tone of response a lot of these replies have, indicates that people seem to think I was dissatisfied with the current situation, or upset, or lodging a complaint. The purpose behind this post was to start what I had hoped would be a constructive discussion about ways we can include everyone in this event, not complaining about content that hasn’t even had the rules released yet. Please, if you have some constructive discussion on the matter, I would appreciate to hear the thoughts, but I’ll ask people to refrain from posting insults, or disingenuous discussion in general. I’d also like to note that I was very specific about the distinction between player and character. I personally have _one_ toon that may not be able to engage in this. _All_ of my others will have no issue whatsoever (does that make a player a “PvE player”, and therefore trash?). Again, the entire reason for this post was to foster constructive talk, not to be mean to people who we think play the game in a way we don’t approve of for own experience. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/28 "2020-03-06T21:27:48Z")
Pacifists want war medals too. Simple as. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/29 "2020-03-06T21:34:28Z")
> [@Fonsui](#): > > The purpose behind this post was to start what I had hoped would be a constructive discussion about ways we can include everyone in this event, not complaining about content that hasn’t even had the rules released yet. Bollocks. ---
**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/30 "2020-03-06T21:37:57Z")
> [@Fonsui](#): > > The tone of response a lot of these replies have, indicates that people seem to think I was dissatisfied with the current situation, or upset, or lodging a complaint. If you don’t want people to think you are complaining, maybe don’t complain? ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/31 "2020-03-06T22:27:24Z")
> [@Fonsui](#): > > The purpose behind this post was to start what I had hoped would be a constructive discussion about ways we can include everyone in this event Where have you been all this time to request the same thing for the PvE only events? ---
**Author:** ![Commander\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_kane/32/199755_2.png) [@Commander\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Commander_Kane)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/32 "2020-03-06T23:08:15Z")
Your alliance killboard says otherwise. > **[Signal Cartel | Corporation](https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98372649/kills/)** > > Signal Cartel: 679 ships destroyed and 31,808 ships lost. Granted you loose plenty of ships with this idea but you still have people in the alliance going on roams with groups killing people. That in itself means you have members hunting others down. ---
**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/33 "2020-03-06T23:55:17Z")
> [@Fonsui](#): > > ways we can include everyone in this event Why this should be so? Events are generally not intended to be for every playstyle, because EVE player base is diverse. You didn’t ask before, why now? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/34 "2020-03-06T23:58:15Z")
Can’t we all agree that these skilling sprees are terrible and should not be part of the game? Bickering over these table scraps is not going to improve anything. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/35 "2020-03-07T04:19:25Z")
> [@Fonsui](#): > > Please, if you have some constructive discussion on the matter, I would appreciate to hear the thoughts Sure, my pleasure: Keep yer gob shut and quit embarrassing your group publicly. yw ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/36 "2020-03-07T04:33:07Z")
> [@Fonsui](#): > > The purpose behind this post was to start what I had hoped would be a constructive discussion about ways we can include everyone in this event, not complaining about content that hasn’t even had the rules released yet. But I’m sure you were here doing the same for all PVE focused events too right? Like, you were here advocating for the inclusion of PVP only players also? Or are you only here now, because it affects you? If the second case, then that’s where the responses are coming from. Selfishness and entitlement, otherwise you would have been here raising the same sort of discussions during all past events. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/37 "2020-03-07T04:33:51Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > Can’t we all agree that these skilling sprees are terrible and should not be part of the game? Yes, absolutely. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/38 "2020-03-07T05:14:03Z")
> [@Fonsui](#): > > The purpose behind this post was to start what I had hoped would be a constructive discussion about ways we can include everyone in this event, not complaining about content that hasn’t even had the rules released yet. Okay, if I read this a certain way it seems to be an _invitation_ to initiate the PvP with Signal Cartel members, thus avoiding the situation they face in gaining access to the skilling event. Seems like a fair compromise for everyone! 😁 edit. If I see triple-repped Hyperions doing explo sites I will know… ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/39 "2020-03-07T09:20:29Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > Can’t we all agree that these skilling sprees are terrible and should not be part of the game? Bickering over these table scraps is not going to improve anything. Nope, I quite enjoyed them actually - It’s simple really, if you don’t want to do them, don’t do them… ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/40 "2020-03-07T09:25:51Z")
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