# Skilling is Just a Means of Communication and non-aggressive playstyles

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 6, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086 "2020-03-06T18:17:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/81 "2020-03-08T16:02:04Z")

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> [@Val\_Kaleth](#):
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> the previous sprees were already forcing pvp only people off to shoot rats

They didn’t force anyone to do anything. I didn’t participate in the previous PVE sprees except when a rat came to me on a gate and I would have killed it anyway to keep the gate clear. I wasn’t interested in looking for a rat to kill nor was I forced to. Just like the hardcore PVErs aren’t forced to PVP in this next event. If I didn’t get my 10k sp because I didn’t kill a rat I didn’t care in the slightest, just like the people refusing to participate in the PVP event shouldn’t whine because it was their choice to not participate.

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**Author:** ![Val\_Kaleth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/val_kaleth/32/187364_2.png) [@Val\_Kaleth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Val_Kaleth)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/82 "2020-03-08T16:05:52Z")

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Clearly it forced you to care enough to talk about it.

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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/83 "2020-03-08T16:08:58Z")

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> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> Well the only REASONABLE expectation would be that said playergroup aka ‘the majority of players’ will simply not log in and/or would cancel their subscription during the duration of this ‘event’ and that CCP will experience a significant playerdrop during this ‘event’

What sort of numbers are we going to see on line then over this event?

Eve Offline tells me (at this moment) that  
the 36 hour average is 26k  
the one week is 22k  
the two week is 22k  
the one month is 22k.

So in your opinion what will these numbers drop to during the PvP event?

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**Author:** ![Algathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algathas/32/397229_2.png) [@Algathas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algathas)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/84 "2020-03-08T16:10:43Z")

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> [@Val\_Kaleth](#):
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> Clearly it forced you to care enough to talk about it.

True. Every survey they sent out after the sprees I asked for them to make a version that was for PVP if they were going to have them. I didn’t whine on forums about it. CCP sent me the survey asking for feedback. Perhaps there was enough people asking for it that CCP decided to give it a try. So CCP is listening to their customer base.

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/85 "2020-03-08T16:35:16Z")

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> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> No, it is just an expectation by a wellknown idiot. There is absolutely no reason for players to not login or cancel their subs because of this event. No player by its right mind at least. There is combat in this game and this event will not cause all of a sudden an increase in the number of players participating in combat. The carebears will continu to carebear and the combateers will continu to combateer. And the combateers will gather some extra worthless SP. So it goes.
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> FFS Balos your level of stupidity is astounding.

As is your continous try to taunt and insult me and my posts for no effect…

**Insanity** : Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/86 "2020-03-08T16:40:29Z")

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> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> Albert Einstein

Citation required

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/87 "2020-03-08T17:02:17Z")

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> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> **Insanity** : Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein

Sure, like asking CCP to make High Sec completely safe for krabs over and over again… and failing miserably.

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/88 "2020-03-08T17:05:44Z")

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> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> **Insanity** : Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein

So what you’re saying is:

Buff ganking and wardecs.

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/90 "2020-03-08T21:47:49Z")

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> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> I am not trying to insult you; I _am_ insulting you dickhead.

Maybe in your world this is a hurting and a valid insult…in mine it is not…no result,no ‘I am insulting you’ in my world…

> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> You can’t even get this right. There is no citation available of Einstein writing or saying this. Try again.

The sad part is you are REALLY that dump that you even cannot get quotes right or deny the ones that show how stupid you are…they simply don’t exist in your world…

You are a really really sad individual…

Denying a comfirmed einstein quote that EVERYBODY knows for what? 50 years now just because it does not fit into your agenda is low even for you…

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**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/91 "2020-03-08T22:00:29Z")

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> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> Denying a comfirmed einstein quote that EVERYBODY knows for what? 50 years now just because it does not fit into your agenda is low even for you…

Um, you might want to check your sources…  
Just Googled it, and there is no clear consensus that Einstein actually said that. [Here](http://www.news.hypercrit.net/2012/11/13/einstein-on-insanity/) is an example.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/92 "2020-03-08T22:21:27Z")

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> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> EVERYBODY knows

Then EVERYBODY is a ■■■■■■■ idiot

There’s a suprise

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/93 "2020-03-09T08:15:14Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Then EVERYBODY is a ■■■■■■■ idiot
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> There’s a suprise

So you are his child?

You know EXACTLY that he didn’t said this?

WOW

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/94 "2020-03-09T08:17:18Z")

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> [@Ugren\_Okaski](#):
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> Um, you might want to check your sources…  
> Just Googled it, and there is no clear consensus that Einstein actually said that. [Here](http://www.news.hypercrit.net/2012/11/13/einstein-on-insanity/) is an example.

‘No clear consensus’?

Even from sources right beside him?

Well…if you say so…you must know it better…

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/95 "2020-03-09T08:18:02Z")

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I have no proof he did.

If you can find a citation, please feel free, no one else has.

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/96 "2020-03-09T08:20:00Z")

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Well…the main question here is why do you make such a big deal out of this quote…

Must be a reflex denying every part of every post of me regardless of sense or meaning…

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/97 "2020-03-09T08:21:55Z")

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> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> Must be a reflex denying every part of every post of me regardless of sense or meaning…

Except you know I did agree with at least one of your previous posts.

Would it hurt you so much to admit you are just repeating something you heard without proof?

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**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/98 "2020-03-09T09:37:01Z")

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> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> A fact that they simply don’t want or have trouble to accept…because…well…they were spoiled for so long do it’s their birthright to be spoiled…you know… 🙂

Since I’ve joined the game in December, the game had 3 PvE events, and 1 PvP event (that is announced but has not yet happened).

How having only 25% of the events for you can reasonnably be called “spoiled” ?

> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> **Insanity** : Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein

Thanks for providing this quote, now we know that they should stop repeating PvE events, because they have been doing it again and again and we see no good results in numbers of players.

It’s about time they try something else, according to your own argument.

> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#):
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> If you don’t want to be exposed to anything pvp-related, then why pick a game like Eve ?

Because he is part of this group of players for which already 95% of games in the markets are designed, but since he is a capricious kid, he feel the need to go and adapt the remaining 5% to his desires too.

He believe that since he is “the majority”, the other people that happen to be “the minority” should have no right to have any product made for them.

In short, because he is an atrociously selfish person.

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**Author:** ![Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravid_bheskagor/32/472687_2.png) [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravid_Bheskagor)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/99 "2020-03-09T10:23:15Z")

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Player vs player space ship combat is the core game-play of EVE online.

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**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/100 "2020-03-09T10:27:21Z")

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> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> Well…the main question here is why do you make such a big deal out of this quote…

Well… you did.

> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> is low even for you…

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**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skilling-is-just-a-means-of-communication-and-non-aggressive-playstyles/224086/101 "2020-03-09T10:45:15Z")

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> [@Fonsui](#):
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> Again, the entire reason for this post was to foster constructive talk,

This is the self help groyp of angry trolls, Reddit is that way 》》》》》》

That aside it is a sandbox. Participate or not in the event is in the hands of the player. Everyone has at least 3 slots per account or can choose to create a new alpha account and only play with his noob in starter areas avoiding PVP completely for the duration of the event. However learning how to either defend themselves or take the fight to others might also be a fun adventure…  
Or even train to avoid PVP ?

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