# Slowing down the decline of EVE

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/slowing-down-the-decline-of-eve/189205>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 11, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/slowing-down-the-decline-of-eve/189205 "2019-09-11T14:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/slowing-down-the-decline-of-eve/189205/139 "2019-09-16T12:30:23Z")

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> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> Who cares? The game is stuffed with alts already anyway. CCP deliberately _encouages_ alts and always has.

The problem isn’t the number of new players being recruited. It’s that they aren’t being engaged when they are recruited.

> [@Just joined a corp with 20 members and now I found they all are the same human being](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/just-joined-a-corp-with-20-members-and-now-i-found-they-all-are-the-same-human-being/188037):
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> dafak? this is scary. I want to play with 20 different people, not with a freak with no social life managing 20 toons. I feel scammed. Another stain in my employment history. And EVE won’t let us clear it. Awesome.

At the moment there is no reason to NOT recruit players and skim corp tax off of them.

> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> No benefit is _gained_

Compared to a corp that doesn’t do it there would be a benefit gained. This is undeniable.

> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> A decent coder could set it up so that only active members count, or other limits. But even without limitations on alt-activity, some people will use alts, some will recruit members, who cares? An approach doesn’t have to be ‘perfect’ to be beneficial.

It could still be gamed and we could still do better.

> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> The “fleet together” idea you also say “exploitable with alts” to. Again, who cares? Using other alts in a fleet means you are either paying Omega for all those alts, or you are using trickery to get around Alpha limitations (a _very_ limited portion of the player base). For 90% of players it will be an incentive to either Omega multiple accounts or fleet up with other people.

Again, the issue is not numbers. It is engagement.

We don’t need an incentive for a few players to play with more alts. We need reasons for more players to play and enjoy the game. What you’re proposing doesn’t promote more interaction as much as it promotes alt corps and bot farms.

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