# So CCP, when are you going to upgrade the Jita 4-4 station? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 30, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218 "2018-09-30T15:44:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Alice\_Accord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_accord/32/188822_2.png) [@Alice\_Accord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Accord)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/1 "2018-09-30T15:44:40Z")
Hi all, It occurred to me today that we’ve been playing eve for 15 years now with the same station in Jita, with sometimes upwards of 3,000 people docking in and out at once. Wouldn’t it make sense at this point (and probably many many points) in time before to expand the station, give it multiple docking and undocking routes, maybe update the visual/model on the station to reflect the expansion? Just a thought! All the best, Alice ---
**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/2 "2018-09-30T16:13:55Z")
The Jita station model is an object with 50 km length. 3k capsuleers or 30k capsuleers don’t make a difference. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_Accord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_accord/32/188822_2.png) [@Alice\_Accord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Accord)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/3 "2018-09-30T16:22:10Z")
Your logic is flawed, it’s not 3,000 pods or people, it’s 3,000 ships. ---
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/4 "2018-09-30T16:25:36Z")
hell I probably have 3000 ships in jita alone… ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_Accord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_accord/32/188822_2.png) [@Alice\_Accord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Accord)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/5 "2018-09-30T16:27:50Z")
Wouldn’t it be nice if it was represented in game, station sizes as a flexible thing depending on the frequency of use, with multiple routes in and out of the station? ---
**Author:** ![erg\_cz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erg_cz/32/392645_2.png) [@erg\_cz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/erg_cz)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/6 "2018-09-30T16:39:30Z")
Yes, please, and make Jita FW low sec. Content generator. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_Accord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_accord/32/188822_2.png) [@Alice\_Accord](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Accord)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/7 "2018-09-30T16:40:27Z")
They should make it’s sec status change 😈 ---
**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/8 "2018-09-30T17:21:58Z")
Irrelevant details. Besides, CCP wants to push you out of that station into destructible structures. You can just anchor a Keepstar that offer space in a 150km wide structure. That’s what CCP wants you to do and they will not help anything that will make people like NPC stations more. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/9 "2018-09-30T17:42:10Z")
CCP should allow one single type of player structure in Jita, the palatine keepstar. 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Merovee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merovee/32/167629_2.png) [@Merovee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merovee)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/10 "2018-09-30T17:49:34Z")
Raise docking fees, force dispersions of trade. ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_Moe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fluffy_moe/32/11132_2.png) [@Fluffy\_Moe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fluffy_Moe)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/11 "2018-09-30T18:46:39Z")
> [@Alice\_Accord](#): > > Hi all, > > It occurred to me today that we’ve been playing eve for 15 years now with the same station in Jita, with sometimes upwards of 3,000 people docking in and out at once. > > Wouldn’t it make sense at this point (and probably many many points) in time before to expand the station, give it multiple docking and undocking routes, maybe update the visual/model on the station to reflect the expansion? > > Just a thought! > > All the best, > > Alice You already do have many, many ways to dock into Jita. You can jump into a frigate, or any ship, fly around the station including over and under it, make a bookmark at 0 distance or close to it, just not too far so you don’t have to coast to it. You can then click on the station and dock up. As far as undocking goes, yea, it’d be kinda nice to at least have 2-3 different undock points for different size ships. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/12 "2018-09-30T18:49:56Z")
Actually the single undock point means you can have an instawarp/undock bookmark (or even several at various distances) and warp away instantly and due to the station geometry and where the undock point is, if you fail you can dock right up and try again as you are still within the docking ring as it is not a kick out station. So don’t see any issue here to be honest. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_Moe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fluffy_moe/32/11132_2.png) [@Fluffy\_Moe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fluffy_Moe)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/13 "2018-09-30T18:56:04Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Actually the single undock point means you can have an instawarp/undock bookmark (or even several at various distances) and warp away instantly and due to the station geometry and where the undock point is, if you fail you can dock right up and try again as you are still within the docking ring as it is not a kick out station. So don’t see any issue here to be honest. 🤔 Its no biggie, if they decided to divide the undock by ship size for example, you’d just end up using 2-3 different undock bookmarks instead of the 1. Its really no big deal. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/14 "2018-09-30T18:57:59Z")
True, just saying it is actually easier right now, especially if they turned the station into a kick out one… which as I have a thief alt in Jita I would fully support, and I assume all the gankers too. 😈 ---
**Author:** ![Vile\_Ratt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vile_ratt/32/99508_2.png) [@Vile\_Ratt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vile_Ratt)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/15 "2018-10-02T21:07:18Z")
I still wait the day 4-4 is going to be made destructible. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/16 "2018-10-03T12:02:31Z")
> [@Vile\_Ratt](#): > > I still wait the day 4-4 is going to be made destructible. Players will only move to a different station until there is no more station to move to. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/17 "2018-10-03T16:25:02Z")
> [@erg\_cz](#): > > Yes, please, and make Jita FW low sec. Content generator. this would help NOTHING…the local major trade hub would just move somewhere else in high… ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/18 "2018-10-03T17:47:09Z")
> [@Vile\_Ratt](#): > > I still wait the day 4-4 is going to be made destructible. No! Go away. We don’t need Burn Jita 4-4. Burn 0.0 bots better. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/19 "2018-10-03T20:02:27Z")
Dont forget about all the exotic dancers CCP. If you ever change that thing, there should be some holograms at least. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-ccp-when-are-you-going-to-upgrade-the-jita-4-4-station/110218/20 "2019-01-01T20:07:49Z")
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