# So I made a new character. It was eye opening

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**Created:** [May 10, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-i-made-a-new-character-it-was-eye-opening/405182 "2023-05-10T18:48:38Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-i-made-a-new-character-it-was-eye-opening/405182/340 "2023-05-16T20:57:19Z")

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> [@OT\_Smithers](#):
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> For example, at one time ship skills were universal.

Objectively wrong.

> [@OT\_Smithers](#):
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> If you had Battlecruiser 5 it allowed you to fly ALL of them at level 5 skill. They changed that across the board. If you were an older character and already level 5, you were GIFTED every race at level 5 without extra training.

This only happened to 2 skills: Battlecruisers and Destroyers. That’s it.

> [@OT\_Smithers](#):
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> So has the number of skills new players are expected to train – and significantly.

Also incorrect. The learning skills were removed. New players were expected to train those. Not Battlecruisers. That’s millions of SP eliminated. Destroyers SP wasn’t enough to offset the learning skills. Additionally, _all characters’ attributes were increased speeding up SP gain_, particularly for newbies who didn’t have to train learning skills anymore. That makes your narrative even more incorrect.

If you want to see what the skill tree used to look like in 2008, here’s the image. Verify for yourself:

 ![2008skillchart](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/2/e/f2ed4cd7198502bee597782c65b60bd41519b3b1.jpeg)

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