# So if it's pronounced 'Posh-vahn', why do you spell it 'Pochven'? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 23, 2020, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346 "2020-11-23T13:24:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/41 "2020-11-24T12:17:47Z")
Also, I have decided that Pochven (aka Poochy) can also be pronounced thusly; Po (as in Poe, as in Edgar Allen Poe) Ch (hard K sound, “K-hh”, followed by the H, pronounced “Eh”) Ven (pronounced as in Robert Vaughn, but the V representing a hard M, thusly “Mauhn”) ---
**Author:** ![Miranda\_Farron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miranda_farron/32/250852_2.png) [@Miranda\_Farron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miranda_Farron)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/42 "2020-11-24T12:27:14Z")
> [@Inxentas\_Ultramar](#): > > why is it pronounced as “Whabbit”? It isn’t apart from by people with lisps and cartoon characters. I’m English. I say Rabbit with a hard R. I have never met anyone in my life who says ‘Whabbit’ and if I did I would punch them. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > I believe Avaelica is referring to the dialect of the toffee nosed twat. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/43 "2020-11-24T15:13:21Z")
If it’s pronounced new-q-lur, why do you spell it nuclear? Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Miranda\_Farron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miranda_farron/32/250852_2.png) [@Miranda\_Farron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miranda_Farron)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/44 "2020-11-24T15:27:28Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > If it’s pronounced new-q-lur, why do you spell it nuclear? New-klee-ur ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/45 "2020-11-24T15:44:16Z")
> [@Miranda\_Farron](#): > > New-klee-ur Would President Bush ever tell a lie? [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/4/7447fceef52ed44995cbce61b8c8cc368a6978eb.jpeg "I say nu-cle-ar, Bush says Nu-cu-lar") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hORaebYWDwk) Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/46 "2020-11-24T16:04:07Z")
Can wookies even SAY their own ■■■■■■■ planet’s name tho ---
**Author:** ![Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inxentas_ultramar/32/385922_2.png) [@Inxentas\_Ultramar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inxentas_Ultramar)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/47 "2020-11-24T17:37:36Z")
> [@Miranda\_Farron](#): > > I’m English. I say Rabbit with a hard R No, you don’t. What in regular English sounds like a “hard R” is still softer then the hardest R of all my nation’s dialects. In English, repeating the letter (like RRRRRR) comes out as an even, monotonous tone **without vibrato**. A Rotterdam RRRR is done with exaggerated vibrato from the larynx. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > What? Either my eyes are in back to front or you have this a bit mixed up. Or, perhaps (and this was my point) the label “hard” is rather relative to the listener. British, Americans… all have this different sound for R _relative_ to my own language. To me an English R does not _sound_ like an R, because in my own frame of reference an R is made by vibrating the larynx far more strongly. The more vibrato, the “harder”, right? Perhaps I have this bit off as I’m not a phometics expert and can barely follow the rest of the thread. I do apologize for characterizing the British as Elmer Fudd, it’s just that that cartoon character came to mind when trying to explain how no English-based pronounciation for the letter R sounds “hard” to me. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I suppose the closer to France you get the more distant good solid Rs get. That’s what I meant. Except Rotterdam. Rotterdam is the capital of hard R’s. This is literally what it sounds like: [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/0/2035ff31bfa9cd8168475afe6dd0866d0480b327.jpeg "Rotterdamse R") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSRFEnEQZMA) ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/48 "2020-11-24T17:39:02Z")
> [@Inxentas\_Ultramar](#): > > if the word is “Rabbit”, why is it pronounced as “Whabbit”? Elmer Fudd isn’t real, mate. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/49 "2020-11-24T17:41:38Z")
> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > I’ve got a terrible accent: Antipodean. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/1/a1fb8a875e53c66f30ba9a3d66d95fb689e8afcc.jpeg "'You'll have to speak Antipodean English' | The Spinoff") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DezEQMPmA24) 😮 > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > toffee nosed twat. What … 😃 … though after listening to this guy above, I think I get it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/50 "2020-11-24T17:54:27Z")
To be fair Im more used to a rolled Scots hard Rrrrr but your point still stands. But I wouldnt ever say wh is common for R in spoken english in my experience ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/51 "2020-11-24T18:00:10Z")
Try this one: eyjafjallajökull And it’s “poached when” not potchven ![200 (4)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/8/a8c478e5b6236503e2383d7c868f75b9325c0631.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/52 "2020-11-24T18:05:15Z")
Sounds like a purring cat sat on a moped 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/53 "2020-11-24T18:09:45Z")
Stahp it Ron ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/54 "2020-11-24T18:19:07Z")
![tumblr_nk8yh09Tbh1s25bcfo7_250](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/5/457c52d3ce2e3300112cccddf6bcade834bb45ef.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Miranda\_Farron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miranda_farron/32/250852_2.png) [@Miranda\_Farron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miranda_Farron)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/55 "2020-11-24T18:29:24Z")
> [@Inxentas\_Ultramar](#): > > What in regular English sounds like a “hard R” is still softer then the hardest R of all my nation’s dialects Did you just turn this into a ‘who has the hardest R’ competition? 🤣 A video of someone doing a Velociraptor impression and the assertion that RRRRRR repeated in Rotterdam is the hardest thing since Benjamin Grimm’s testicles still doesn’t mean we say ‘Whabbit’ in England. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/56 "2020-11-24T18:33:26Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/e/ae0a2de186cc65a837fa0a3afe3a1e9bcd802962.jpeg "Singin' In The Rain (1952) - Lesson Vocal (best and funny scene)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eblZIcyCcpY) ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-if-its-pronounced-posh-vahn-why-do-you-spell-it-pochven/281346/57 "2020-11-25T07:34:56Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/5/b52114fb8bd384949e69e08420ebea13ec58312b.jpeg "Chewbacca defense") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14) 😃 ---
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