# So, it seems Daleks are canon now

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**Category:** EVE Lore Discussion\
**Created:** [January 4, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260 "2022-01-04T15:47:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bergr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bergr/32/252176_2.png) [@Bergr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bergr)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/1 "2022-01-04T15:47:05Z")

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Hi lore people, are you looking forward to the Dalek invasion? LOL

 ![RDT_20220104_1643091678887752099286916](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/4/b/14b23f63f5dbdf6ca6b8c3acd54d0ead6a00b4f1.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/2 "2022-01-04T15:55:56Z")

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There are lots of ways that this can be handwaved. “Oh, hey, there’s this GalFed holo that’s really popular. Ugh. More importantly, here’s this SoE/AIR operation to try to discover why some of their ships keep going missing…”

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**Author:** ![Jin\_Endares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_endares/32/413291_2.png) [@Jin\_Endares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_Endares)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/3 "2022-01-04T15:57:00Z")

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Exactly.

Many ways it can play out.

**IF** done well it could be fun, profitable and entertaining!

Though it does break the canon that there are no “aliens” In EVE. 🙄

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**Author:** ![Jocca\_Quinn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jocca_quinn/32/441838_2.png) [@Jocca\_Quinn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jocca_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/4 "2022-01-04T16:39:52Z")

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> [@Makoto\_Priano](#):
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> There are lots of ways that this can be handwaved

The easiest way is that CCP have finally _jumped the shark_.

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**Author:** ![Jin\_Endares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_endares/32/413291_2.png) [@Jin\_Endares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_Endares)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/5 "2022-01-04T16:59:55Z")

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> [@Jocca\_Quinn](#):
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> The easiest way is that CCP have finally _jumped the shark_.

Dr Who is a dying franchise. The BBC made sure of that with the last Doctor incarnation. This smells like a desperate measure for both BBC and CCP to pump up ratings again.

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**Author:** ![Shaktar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shaktar/32/462589_2.png) [@Shaktar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shaktar)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/6 "2022-01-04T17:07:02Z")

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Not only is it a dying franchise, but one that is not really well known outside UK.  
I would have preferred a Battlestar Galactica or an Expanse crossover as it would have made more sense (Clones, wormholes, lost colonies)

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**Author:** ![Lauralite\_Anne\_Brezia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lauralite_anne_brezia/32/380065_2.png) [@Lauralite\_Anne\_Brezia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lauralite_Anne_Brezia)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/7 "2022-01-04T17:10:00Z")

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so far, it seems reasonable enough after some dev explaination. It’s… going to, in-game at least, be structured in a way that its one off and won’t push too much on existing canon

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**Author:** ![Jin\_Endares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_endares/32/413291_2.png) [@Jin\_Endares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_Endares)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/8 "2022-01-04T17:12:49Z")

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> [@Shaktar](#):
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> Not only is it a dying franchise, but one that is not really well known outside UK.

On that you’re mistaken.

Dr Who fans are worldwide.

ps- A BSG crossover would have been great! Heck, even a Star Trek time travel crossover.

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**Author:** ![Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cherry_crush_mafannyoot/32/276742_2.png) [@Cherry\_Crush\_MaFannyOot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cherry_Crush_MaFannyOot)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/9 "2022-01-04T18:05:41Z")

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Or you know if you watch Dr.Who, the timeline is repaired and when he leaves next month no one remembers a thing. Same way every scifi 3rd wall cross over is solved.

People who are shitting on a kids tv show that is doing a visit are you know shits.

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**Author:** ![Komi\_Valentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/komi_valentine/32/502956_2.png) [@Komi\_Valentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Komi_Valentine)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/10 "2022-01-04T18:09:44Z")

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My thoughts about it ^^

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/9/f/99f892ac1d665b58a4316f44cf8090cdc1de0562.jpeg "Eve + Dr. Who Meme") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHgtZD4wHiI)

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**Author:** ![Ange\_des\_Larmes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ange_des_larmes/32/304752_2.png) [@Ange\_des\_Larmes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ange_des_Larmes)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/11 "2022-01-04T18:41:50Z")

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I really hope the Lore team are going to get a raise for the amount of hard work they’re going to have to do to make this work in the existing lore (aliens, anyone?), let alone with future lore.

It does feel like a bit of a two-fingered salute from CCP management to those of us who like lore and RP but I’m willing to give it a chance.

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**Author:** ![Gleb\_Koskov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gleb_koskov/32/374138_2.png) [@Gleb\_Koskov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gleb_Koskov)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/12 "2022-01-04T19:25:41Z")

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Don’t know much about Dr. Who other than I’ve got a couple funny pictures about the show.

![1533963402272](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/c/5/ec50768582e532a586ea2c780b4ee836c229e619.gif)

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**Author:** ![Komi\_Valentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/komi_valentine/32/502956_2.png) [@Komi\_Valentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Komi_Valentine)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/13 "2022-01-04T19:29:58Z")

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me neither, but I remember there was this one lady that was just some weird stretched skin because she was like 9000 years old and had so many plastic surgories or something. Dr Who is not that serios while eve is and that’s my main problem with the thing.  
Nothing against a Dr Who episode taking part in the eve universe buuuuuut does that mean we have those weird alien - spacemagic things in new eden now, too? 😃

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/14 "2022-01-04T19:32:27Z")

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> [@Komi\_Valentine](#):
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> me neither, but I remember there was this one lady that was just some weird stretched skin because she was like 9000 years old and had so many plastic surgories or something

She was the last living “natural” human in the future. Not much more than a stretched piece of living skin that needed constant humidity otherwise would dry out.

ps- I think that was the episode we were introduced to The Face of Bo character (who turned out to be (SPOLIER ALERT!!!) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Capt Jack!

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/15 "2022-01-04T23:03:50Z")

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> [@Shaktar](#):
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> Not only is it a dying franchise, but one that is not really well known outside UK.

Uh wut. There are a ton of Dr Who fans outside of the UK ROFL.

> [@Shaktar](#):
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> I would have preferred a Battlestar Galactica or an Expanse crossover as it would have made more sense (Clones, wormholes, lost colonies)

Dr Who has literally had all of those things ROFL.

> [@Komi\_Valentine](#):
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> me neither, but I remember there was this one lady that was just some weird stretched skin because she was like 9000 years old and had so many plastic surgories or something. Dr Who is not that serios while eve is and that’s my main problem with the thing.  
> Nothing against a Dr Who episode taking part in the eve universe buuuuuut does that mean we have those weird alien - spacemagic things in new eden now, too? 😃

Actually Dr Who is in some ways very similar to Adventure Time. On the surface it can be silly and funny, but also has horrific undertones. My biggest gripe is them retconning the Time War.

Dr Who capers around the galaxy as this likeable fellow, when in reality he genocided two races completely. The dichotomy and resulting change in his philosophy is what made the show compelling.

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/16 "2022-01-04T23:09:48Z")

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Hm time travel in EVE Anyone have references to this in EVE lore? Story link would be helpful. That’s my biggest sticking point about the Dr Who x EVE.

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/17 "2022-01-04T23:36:42Z")

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With this crossover EVE is also officially connected to the Fallout franchise as well. 😉

> **[Unusual Call Box](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Unusual_Call_Box)**
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> To the Northeast you spot a police box.In-game description Unusual Call Box is a special encounter in Fallout. When the Vault Dweller enters the map, all that can be seen (beyond the usual desert dust) is a large blue police call box. These were a...

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/18 "2022-01-04T23:47:07Z")

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Well not quite. TARDIS, Sonic screwdriver, Daleks, etc. the 4th Doctor’s scarf are often easter eggs in many games and other visual media, but they’re just that, easter eggs. This is an official collaboration with CCP & BBC (hence them using the official logo).

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/19 "2022-01-04T23:51:52Z")

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Well I guess you missed it was meant as a joke. 😛 Though considering Bethesda treatment of easter eggs turned into official lore I wouldn’t be so sure about it not being canon or it will not be canonized later on…

> **[Alien Ship](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Alien_Ship)**
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> Hey! They're really out there.In-game description Alien Ship is a special encounter in Fallout. The encounter consists of a crashed flying saucer and two aliens, one that carries a special alien blaster and another with the Velvet Elvis. There is no...

> **[Mothership Zeta (add-on)](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Mothership_Zeta_(add-on))**
>
> Mothership Zeta is the fifth and final add-on for Fallout 3, developed and published by Bethesda Softworks. Mothership Zeta was initially released exclusively as downloadable content on Xbox Live and Games for Windows Live on August 3, 2009. It was...

😉

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-it-seems-daleks-are-canon-now/344260/20 "2022-01-05T00:21:19Z")

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What cursed dimension have I walked into where CCP and BBC are writing crossover fan fiction.

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