# So long new eden **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [August 26, 2017, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804 "2017-08-26T05:09:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Trump\_The\_King](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trump_the_king/32/14537_2.png) [@Trump\_The\_King](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trump_The_King)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/63 "2017-08-26T11:16:47Z")
im not sure you seem like the expert you tell us XD good thing you are noone important ---
**Author:** ![Trump\_The\_King](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trump_the_king/32/14537_2.png) [@Trump\_The\_King](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trump_The_King)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/64 "2017-08-26T11:17:32Z")
hahahah you dont even know what you are talking about XD ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/65 "2017-08-26T11:17:41Z")
Weak bait. ---
**Author:** ![Trump\_The\_King](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trump_the_king/32/14537_2.png) [@Trump\_The\_King](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trump_The_King)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/66 "2017-08-26T11:18:37Z")
you literally dont. but keep trying to be an “expert” for forum likes. just another whiney carebear screaming for ccp to save highsec from the evil gankurz XD ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/67 "2017-08-26T11:20:04Z")
EBIN XDDDDD Im not the one crying, leaving EVE or banned XDDDDD ---
**Author:** ![Arcanith\_Lionheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcanith_lionheart/32/218531_2.png) [@Arcanith\_Lionheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcanith_Lionheart)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/68 "2017-08-26T11:20:38Z")
It’s called a Discussion, if I were in tears you would be hearing me in a more legit salty way, like using curse words or using all caps, this is the problem with CODE., they think they are good people but then present flawed logic and bait bad behaviour from others, you yourselves are no experts in the matter as well when you, like previously, claim that we are complaining about Gankers, this is a CONCORD discussion, not a Gank discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Beliar\_Gray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beliar_gray/32/19542_2.png) [@Beliar\_Gray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beliar_Gray)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/69 "2017-08-26T11:22:23Z")
Nah this is “me saying bye to Eve” thread. I won’t argue with you guys though, go wild! ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/70 "2017-08-26T11:22:35Z")
> [@Arcanith\_Lionheart](#): > > this is a CONCORD discussion, not a Gank discussion. Actually its a discussion where we laugh at OP. Lets not lose sight of that. ---
**Author:** ![Rowdy\_Ronny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rowdy_ronny/32/11231_2.png) [@Rowdy\_Ronny](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rowdy_Ronny)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/71 "2017-08-26T11:22:55Z")
Everyone contributes on these forums! ((Carebear stare)) ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/72 "2017-08-26T11:23:19Z")
Still didnt leave? Having trouble finding the door? ---
**Author:** ![Arcanith\_Lionheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcanith_lionheart/32/218531_2.png) [@Arcanith\_Lionheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcanith_Lionheart)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/73 "2017-08-26T11:24:12Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > [@Arcanith\_Lionheart](#): > > > > this is a CONCORD discussion, not a Gank discussion. > > Actually its a discussion where we laugh at OP. > Lets not lose sight of that. Oh yeah, forgot about that, lets continue that then ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/6/a6eca78e9c537a248e111728ee76f997e4e1e366.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Tasspool\_Harp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tasspool_harp/32/144213_2.png) [@Tasspool\_Harp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tasspool_Harp)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/74 "2017-08-26T11:31:53Z")
> Blockquote Were the toxic ones? I’m not a pussy words don’t hurt me but I’ve never seen a CODE. guy saying something even a tenth as bad as this ever. RL tears and rage-fuelled rants from victims are the life-blood of minerbumping. Disingenuous to pretend otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Lulu\_Lunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lulu_lunette/32/133822_2.png) [@Lulu\_Lunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lulu_Lunette)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/75 "2017-08-26T11:57:51Z")
Hey thanks for playing 💜 ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/76 "2017-08-26T12:02:33Z")
So if that’s bad, why do those who hate CODE do the same things CODE agents do? ---
**Author:** ![Tasspool\_Harp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tasspool_harp/32/144213_2.png) [@Tasspool\_Harp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tasspool_Harp)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/77 "2017-08-26T12:49:12Z")
If your reply is specifically in reference to my post, then you will have to enlighten me. As it is , I’m not aware of an anti-CODE version of minerbumping where “those who hate CODE” post salt from ganker neophytes or share their adventures in baiting other players into conversations for the purpose of ridicule. ---
**Author:** ![Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bjorn_tyrson/32/371958_2.png) [@Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bjorn_Tyrson)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/78 "2017-08-26T12:50:32Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > It is factually nonetheless a delay in every sense of the term. > > Wrong again. CONCORD is not delayed. > > I’m not certain what the exact CONCORD response times are by system security status, but I think it’s about 21 seconds in a 0.5 sec system (could be wrong). > > So for illustration purposes: > > 1. no CONCORD on grid: response 21 seconds > 2. CONCORD moved off grid: response 21 seconds. > > There is no delay. They respond in the same time as if they had never been there in the first place. Hence, they aren’t delayed. > > However, as you don’t seem to be able to understand how it is not at all a delay, just go petition it. Continuing to discuss it is pointless, so I’m out. > > Go petition it and let CCP tell you. Concord response time in a 0.5 system is supposed to be 19 seconds. pulling them off grid can increase that time to ~25 seconds (depending on the system etc) > [@Beliar\_Gray](#): > > That is the only thing we ever did, the kill that got us banned for 1 month/permananent took us under 24 seconds According to this, the gank took less than 24 seconds, which is longer than concord response time would have been had they not been pulled elsewhere, but within the time for them being pulled. so if 0.5 response time is SUPPOSED to be ~20 seconds, and pulling them extend that to ~25, then they have been delayed by 5 seconds. which is in violation of the rule. CCP also has the right to enforce those rules as they see fit, just because they have not banned anyone for pulling concord before does not by default mean that they are never allowed to do so. Yes it is claimed that they “didn’t even use their max dps” which may or may not be true, but with the damage application that they DID get, the gank would not have succeeded in the normal time frame for .5 system had they not pulled concord. which, regardless of if it has gotten people banned before or not, and regardless of how ubiquitous that tactic might be, IS manipulating game mechanics to cause a delay, which IS against the rule as written. ---
**Author:** ![DrButterfly\_PHD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drbutterfly_phd/32/18797_2.png) [@DrButterfly\_PHD](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrButterfly_PHD)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/79 "2017-08-26T12:52:33Z")
Bye… ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/80 "2017-08-26T12:56:30Z")
> [@Bjorn\_Tyrson](#): > > is supposed to be 19 seconds Have you got a link to where that is published? Not disputing it, just never been able to find a reference. ---
**Author:** ![Algarion\_Getz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algarion_getz/32/356396_2.png) [@Algarion\_Getz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algarion_Getz)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/81 "2017-08-26T13:09:22Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/f/2fd604fe214401a47b950af2e18208a467aa500e.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bjorn_tyrson/32/371958_2.png) [@Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bjorn_Tyrson)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804/82 "2017-08-26T13:40:59Z")
I got my numbers originally from the uni wiki article on concord which includes the response times. I believe this article here may be the source for that information. [http://blog.beyondreality.se/TTK-CONCORD](http://blog.beyondreality.se/TTK-CONCORD) And here is a thread on the old forums referencing that data as well. From what I can tell the numbers should be accurate to within ~1 second (server ticks being what they are) [https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=321759](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=321759) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-long-new-eden/19804.md?page=5)