# So, what happened to highsec and the Winter release? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 15, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115 "2017-08-15T21:00:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/1 "2017-08-15T21:00:51Z")
Earlier today I browsed the eve updates site to see whether was anything new about the Winter expansion, whch had to “breathe fresh air” in Empire space. Later this evening I’ve checked it again and have noticed that all mention to highsec has been removed from the winter expansion, and it’s not a webpage bug since the highsec tag is also empty for winter 2017. I am on the fence for CCP being a little CCP so maybe they just removed the placeholder news bit in order to add a more fleshed out version tomorrow/next week/Soon, but then, it’s CCP so I also wonder whether they’ve gone [full CCP](https://youtu.be/oAKG-kbKeIo) and the plans for adding highsec content have been delayed/postponed/abandoned… ---
**Author:** ![Nora\_Maldoran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nora_maldoran/32/399985_2.png) [@Nora\_Maldoran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nora_Maldoran)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/2 "2017-08-15T21:10:22Z")
If the last where the case it would be sad of course, but they surely will have a reason for doing so. Let it be alone not to raise expectations they can not fulfill. Better they work longer on something and make it real good rather than publish it unfinished. That’s what felt ‘The Agency’ like for me. So I rather be a bit longer patient than soon™ disappointed. ---
**Author:** ![Lulu\_Lunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lulu_lunette/32/133822_2.png) [@Lulu\_Lunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lulu_Lunette)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/3 "2017-08-16T00:43:55Z")
I’ve had to sort of … quit reading about the game lol You get what you get, okay? 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Sethyrh\_Nakrar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sethyrh_nakrar/32/12695_2.png) [@Sethyrh\_Nakrar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sethyrh_Nakrar)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/4 "2017-08-16T03:21:16Z")
Who knows? ---
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/5 "2017-08-16T04:13:52Z")
I expect they will tell us more at Eve Vegas. I’ve barely heard a thing so far. ---
**Author:** ![Algarion\_Getz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algarion_getz/32/356396_2.png) [@Algarion\_Getz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algarion_Getz)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/6 "2017-08-16T13:44:53Z")
> [@Sethyrh\_Nakrar](#): > > Who knows? We should know by now. 2 weeks ago Falcon said: > [@CCPlz update the update site!](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplz-update-the-update-site/13089/5): > > Winter starts in late October for us over here, haha In all seriousness though, there’ll be a pass on EVE Updates next week that’ll fill out some of the stuff for the rest of the year. Once we get Vegas out of the way, we’ll be looking at adding some stuff for 2018 too slight_smile I hope “more details” isnt the info that the expansion is cancelled. ---
**Author:** ![Kaelynne\_Rose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaelynne_rose/32/15039_2.png) [@Kaelynne\_Rose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaelynne_Rose)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/7 "2017-08-17T15:36:11Z")
My deadbeat father followed through on more of his usually broken promises and pipe-dreams he strung me out along than CCP. They are very conscious of how they ober promise, usually fall very behind, out-right lie or go total-dark-zero comms. Over and over we hear the usual apology of how they are sorry and will communicate more and learned their lesson and blah blah blah. I mean eventually you realize daddy will always be a liar that never comes through on anything ---
**Author:** ![blazigen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blazigen/32/491485_2.png) [@blazigen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/blazigen)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/8 "2017-08-17T17:40:22Z")
Could always be worse. You could be a star citizens backer. ---
**Author:** ![Nora\_Maldoran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nora_maldoran/32/399985_2.png) [@Nora\_Maldoran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nora_Maldoran)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/9 "2017-08-17T18:08:28Z")
That one made me chuckle. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Sarina\_Aideron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sarina_aideron/32/333737_2.png) [@Sarina\_Aideron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sarina_Aideron)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/10 "2017-08-17T20:46:35Z")
The upcoming features and changes section is also empty. > **[Upcoming Features & Changes](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/technology-research/upcoming-features-changes)** > > This forum category is for the discussion of upcoming features and changes. What is going on at CCP? Have they cancelled EVE development? Like 1 year ago, the feature that was the furthest in the future on EVE updates was refineries + changes to moon minig. It still is … ---
**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/11 "2017-08-17T21:12:04Z")
I am sure that CCP will have their top men working on it: ![giphy-downsized](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/6/c699e809b3f9175903048f6336888c77f3399652.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Shiloh\_Templeton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shiloh_templeton/32/375666_2.png) [@Shiloh\_Templeton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shiloh_Templeton)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/12 "2017-08-17T22:17:11Z")
> [@Kaelynne\_Rose](#): > > My deadbeat father followed through on more of his usually broken promises and pipe-dreams he strung me out along than CCP … Wow, that’s honest and bleak. I think all parents fail their children in some way by a design of nature - that’s what inspires the child to make something more of their life. Have you ever watched “The Wrester” with Micky Rourke? ---
**Author:** ![Kaelynne\_Rose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaelynne_rose/32/15039_2.png) [@Kaelynne\_Rose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaelynne_Rose)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/13 "2017-08-18T13:07:34Z")
Yeah fantastic movie. EvE is kind of like that aging past-his-prime wrestler that doesnt know when to just retire. ---
**Author:** ![Rowdy\_Ronny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rowdy_ronny/32/11231_2.png) [@Rowdy\_Ronny](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rowdy_Ronny)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/14 "2017-08-18T13:49:31Z")
It could even be much worse as CCP would stop developing eve and back starcitizen. ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/15 "2017-08-18T13:56:01Z")
Or Chris Roberts could just stop developing SC, buy EVE and develop it. ---
**Author:** ![Lulu\_Lunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lulu_lunette/32/133822_2.png) [@Lulu\_Lunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lulu_Lunette)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/16 "2017-08-18T14:56:36Z")
Eve Citizen ™ 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Hexex\_Ciia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hexex_ciia/32/414484_2.png) [@Hexex\_Ciia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hexex_Ciia)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/17 "2017-08-18T16:23:31Z")
Its true guys, eve is canceled. Gib me all your stuff ---
**Author:** ![Chance\_Ravinne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chance_ravinne/32/423798_2.png) [@Chance\_Ravinne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chance_Ravinne)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/18 "2017-08-18T17:06:01Z")
Hisec is being replaced with EVE: Valkyrie ---
**Author:** ![Nora\_Maldoran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nora_maldoran/32/399985_2.png) [@Nora\_Maldoran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nora_Maldoran)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/19 "2017-08-19T00:55:08Z")
I would be O.K. with that, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2017, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115/20 "2017-08-21T09:19:38Z")
I would not be surprised is the high sec themed expansion is delayed to the next winter. It looks like the repeat of situation with moon mining. I think they knew it will be delayed before it was even announced. They just keep repeating the old trick. 😏 [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-what-happened-to-highsec-and-the-winter-release/17115.md?page=2)