# So when does the new mechanic for ganking and standings drops take effect? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 21, 2022, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377 "2022-11-21T04:42:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/241 "2022-11-23T23:00:50Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Using **your** logic Ganking is “real PvP”…lulz. * * * ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/242 "2022-11-23T23:08:56Z")
There are more ways to kill someone in high-sec that just ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/243 "2022-11-23T23:17:43Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Except that we know they drag people into chats Typical Lucas dishonest abuse of language. Nobody gets ‘dragged’ into chat. Anyone can _decline_ any chat easily. Anyone can easily block people’s chat in Local. I do all the time in Jita. _Nobody_ is forced to read anything they don’t want to…or to hang around in any chat room. Are the people you profess to be standing up for 5 year old kids incapable of taking responsibility and clicking a button to decline or get out of chat…or are they competent adults who know how to use a mouse ? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/244 "2022-11-23T23:19:01Z")
I am really enjoying this change in heart. +1 from me ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/245 "2022-11-23T23:20:01Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Lucas dishonest abuse of language He said “drag people into chats”…which is exactly what they do. * * * ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/246 "2022-11-23T23:27:43Z")
Into chat you go! ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/d/5/1d55d0dd536360dfe26c45c205cc4d70f3081a93.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/247 "2022-11-23T23:29:25Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > They were warned of the risk and had no expectations of “safety” or “security”. Unlike **HIGH-SECURITY SPACE**. See the difference? _Nowhere_ does it say that high security is absolute security. Noob miners get attacked by NPC rats far more regularly than by gankers…the rats appear very regularly…so it is obvious within minutes of starting mining that highsec is _not_ safe. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/248 "2022-11-23T23:30:28Z")
Highsec rats negatively affect player retention. It is supposed to be **HIGH** sec, so there shouldn’t be any hostile NPCs. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/249 "2022-11-23T23:31:24Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > He said “drag people into chats”…which is exactly what they do. You _cannot_ be ‘dragged’ into chat. Have you really been in Eve 20 years ( I doubt it ) and never seen the DECLINE button ?? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/251 "2022-11-23T23:32:58Z")
People try to drag me into fleet all the time. I have always managed to outwit them so far. Knock on wood. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/252 "2022-11-23T23:33:58Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > they have years of practice. Years of practice opening a window that says accept or decline. The more years of experience you have, the more likely the recipient will choose accept. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/253 "2022-11-23T23:38:32Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > People try to drag me into fleet all the time. I know ! One minute I’m sitting there highsec mining, and next thing I know I’m being un-consensually **dragged** into a fleet of Leshaks heading for nullsec battle. I am lured into not noticing the DECLINE option, and I get fleet warped without consent and lose my Venture. This is an outrage, and CCP really ought to have a huge ’ DO YOU WANT TO DECLINE THIS FLEET ?’ window for us poor unfortunate people who don’t want to be…erm… **dragged** …into fleet. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/255 "2022-11-23T23:43:05Z")
Psychopaths! ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2022, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/256 "2022-11-23T23:53:00Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Years of practice figuring out which people are most likely to respond, how best to get people to accept, how to wind them up when they do, etc. Never mind your posting qualifications…what about gankers. ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/257 "2022-11-24T00:34:33Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > the rats appear very regularly What odds does a noob have of surviving rats versus being ganked? * * * > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > You _cannot_ be ‘dragged’ into chat. We’re still talking about noobs…right? > [@Xeux](#): > > the more likely the recipient will choose accept NOPE! * * * ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/258 "2022-11-24T00:39:35Z")
Hey, Destiny! Look what I found! In the New Citizens Q&A thread of all places. Oh and posted by ISD no less! ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/5/1/a51fdb2dba4aaf5aa28433e5718e8c0f9f61bce2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/259 "2022-11-24T00:44:38Z")
That was from a century ago. Eve has evolved. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/260 "2022-11-24T00:45:28Z")
It was also posted by an ISD and not a GM and/or Dev. So it doesn’t really count. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/261 "2022-11-24T00:46:00Z")
Probably a disgraced ISD that was summarily fired. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/262 "2022-11-24T00:48:52Z")
And at a time where the negative psychological effects of pvp were _not_ fully known and understood. EDIT: Take a look at that. It was posted in jun of ‘21. That’s ancient and irrelevant now. It’s amazing how far the human race has progressed in behavior psychology since last year. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377.md?page=12)