# So when does the new mechanic for ganking and standings drops take effect? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 21, 2022, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377 "2022-11-21T04:42:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/263 "2022-11-24T01:10:58Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > That’s ancient and irrelevant now. It was never relevant or correct. HS was designed to be safe. I was there. * * * ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/264 "2022-11-24T01:12:52Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > human race Do we really still say that? Isn’t it the huthey/them race now? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/265 "2022-11-24T01:24:34Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I still have a multibox logi fleet smewhere if you guys are struggling. Sure you do bruv, sure you do 😃 > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > That’s what you are, a space janitor. Better than a griefer like you 😃 > [@x123xxx](#): > > They were warned of the risk and had no expectations of “safety” or “security”. Unlike **HIGH-SECURITY SPACE**. See the difference? They are also warned in high sec too. Once you undock, you consent to PvP, period 😃 > [@x123xxx](#): > > Ganking is “real PvP”…lulz. All PvP is real PvP. As your homie says, facts don’t care about feelings 😃 > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Typical Lucas dishonest abuse of language. Nobody gets ‘dragged’ into chat. Anyone can _decline_ any chat easily. Anyone can easily block people’s chat in Local. I do all the time in Jita. _Nobody_ is forced to read anything they don’t want to…or to hang around in any chat room. I dunno man. Ole Grampy made a burner char to grief you and your alliance 😃 > [@x123xxx](#): > > He said “drag people into chats”…which is exactly what they do. You can decline bruh. I decline chat requests all the time 😃 > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > And I’m sure many people do decline it. But these gankers go after targets trying to get them into it, trying to get them to respond, and they have years of practice. It’s not a surprise that they succeed. If they do succeed, it is 100% the acceptee’s fault 😃 > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Years of practice figuring out which people are most likely to respond, how best to get people to accept, how to wind them up when they do, etc. LOL. You must write high fantasy huh? Maybe the US govt should hire Aiko for psyops based on your opinion ROFL. > [@x123xxx](#): > > We’re still talking about noobs…right? Cept the peeps dying ain’t noobs 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/266 "2022-11-24T01:26:11Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > it is 100% the acceptee’s fault Get with the program. Victims are never at fault. Sheesh. Griefer. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/267 "2022-11-24T01:33:52Z")
I do. And my personal reality and truth supersedes yours. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/268 "2022-11-24T01:38:26Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > I dunno man. Ole Grampy made a burner char to grief you and your alliance 😃 We are not allowed to talk about that. You are putting us all at risk Gix. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/269 "2022-11-24T01:46:59Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > What odds does a noob have of surviving rats versus being ganked? I don’t care. > [@x123xxx](#): > > We’re still talking about noobs…right? Nope…I suspect we are talking about 2 year old kids who need potty training alongside how to recognise the word ‘Decline’ on a button. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/270 "2022-11-24T02:02:06Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Cept the peeps dying ain’t noobs Common man. Get with the times. The definition for noob that you’re laboring under is at least 4 months old. Let me get you up to speed. Noob (n.) 1. A person who has acquired vast wealth in EvE online in the form of in game currency, the isk, either liquid or wrapped up in assets. A noob is only considered a noob when they have been playing the game for over 15 years and have a in game net value of over 100 trillion isk. 2. A situation that is exploited to push a narrative that is antithesis to the core pvp value of EvE Online. Typically cherry-picked and out of context to promote the most shock value. ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/271 "2022-11-24T03:33:57Z")
Are any of you capable of presenting a valid argument? You sound like 9 year olds. * * * ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/272 "2022-11-24T03:59:06Z")
You sound like an eight-year-old. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/274 "2022-11-24T07:55:58Z")
But we arent talking about the point when you get there, we are talking about when you take them if you feel you will lose? Do you attack someone who should be able to beat you? Do you leave for Jita when evidence says you will sell for a loss? Do you leave the house NOW knowing youve 5 mins to make the 10min journey or be late? Do you avoid buying petrol/gasoline even though you probably will run out before getting there? Are you wise or daft to take these risks? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/275 "2022-11-24T08:44:39Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Do you attack someone who should be able to beat you? yes, all the time yesterday i fought a pimped Exequror navy, with 3 red enemies (including a myrmidon) undocking all the time , in front of everyone , while i was suspect , on jita undock the fight was good but the tank was to strong , i was worried , probably will not make it, he was taking some distance (usually is a sight of he was worried to) , but them the damage increased , it was a maelstrom shooting me , i managed to deagro and docked in the last second with few hull points left true story you have to be engageable , and it usually means to be a bit outgunned plus , I’m solo , i don’t have intel , my CPU is old and suck so if i alt tab it crashes … and there is the adrenaline and if they are pimped maybe the loot is good and so on edit: i also fight 2v1 , 3v1 2 with the same ship as me look for fights even if there is 50 enemies on local re duel ( AKA they cherry pick and i will probably die ) fight the same guy that owned me 5 times fight impossible fights like auguror vs brutix navy see 10 guys on dscam at 1 au wait kill the first and bail etc etc etc and if i didn’t do this to you reader , it was because i was not in the mood … but i usually am I’m not saying I’m good or something , but im sure i play EVE unlike any risk averse carebear ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/276 "2022-11-24T09:01:42Z")
I know some items can be sold at a loss as I know I can make it back on another item. Sometimes holding modules and fittings long term pays off and when they don’t it is best to sell and cut losses until another time. Mostly is had roleplay reasons and one example the Gas and the RP value it brings. Started with a small amount then become a large amount. Selling for a loss at Jita is only a loss for the item being sold at a loss. Looking at the overview on Wallet it shows Trade 12.7B sold and then 8.3B bought in the last 30 days Currenlty not taking risks with Skill Point farming and only 1 account is active. I only know what others tell me and if I am doing something wrong then rp with me to get it right. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/277 "2022-11-24T09:07:05Z")
But you still lost Thats the point. Theres no point if you dont win. That goes for life as well as for games. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/278 "2022-11-24T09:07:50Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > But you still lost > Thats the point. sometimes i win ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/279 "2022-11-24T09:08:30Z")
Then the odds werent against you. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/280 "2022-11-24T09:08:54Z")
ofc they are but you can win even if the odds are against you thats the point ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/281 "2022-11-24T09:09:24Z")
The house always wins when the odds are against you. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/282 "2022-11-24T09:09:48Z")
[quote="Ramona McCandless, post:281, topic:385377, full:true, username:Ramona\_McCandless”] The house always wins when the odds are against you. [/quote] i have a gambling problem ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/283 "2022-11-24T09:11:17Z")
No, you dont. You just know when the odds are in your favour whether you think you do or not. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377.md?page=13)