# So when does the new mechanic for ganking and standings drops take effect? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 21, 2022, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377 "2022-11-21T04:42:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/331 "2022-11-26T00:53:02Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I don’t hate PvP and I do it most days. Ah…that must be why your most recent killboard record is getting on towards 3 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/332 "2022-11-26T00:53:12Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > won’t actually fight the gankers or stop them You know how silly this argument is, yet you still keep presenting it. How’s the no docking and tethering in HS working out for ya? * * * ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/2/e/e2e9aeb66ba3207f4b7ddb050889325cf8e81b83.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/333 "2022-11-26T00:57:56Z")
> [@Total\_Bedlam](#): > > We know that anyone they don’t like they call an “alt” If it looks like one and it quacks like one…its a… ![how-to-keep-ducks-call-ducks-1615457181](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/b/1/3b1284ee45b02e3fa763a9e4d862e86e705cafe3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/334 "2022-11-26T02:00:44Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > looks like one and it quacks like one So, how’s not being able to tether affecting the market? I’ve seen a lot of structures unanchored since this expansion. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/335 "2022-11-26T02:11:28Z")
Tethering changes don’t affect me at all. An now that I have an Omega ganker set up…neither do the Alpha ganker changes. Business as usual. ---
**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/336 "2022-11-26T02:17:00Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Business as usual. Zkillz tells another story. Also, it’s amazing how many gankers flag my posts. The latest is historical! I smell fear. * * * ---
**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/337 "2022-11-26T02:23:52Z")
except you’re now paying a sub for that ganker . business as intended . ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/338 "2022-11-26T05:12:02Z")
> [@Total\_Bedlam](#): > > We know that anyone they don’t like they call an “alt” Yeah sure, so you are 17day new player with no killboard history, and somehow you are engaging on forum against PvP in this game. Totally not “alty” behavior. I didn’t read your posts enough to see if you seem to have any knowledge about the game or not, but just this is enough to make a conclusion that you sir, are an obvious alt. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/339 "2022-11-26T05:36:20Z")
Nope. We are still multiboxing alphas and ganking with them everywhere. CPP can’t even nerf things properly. ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Bedlam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/total_bedlam/32/341964_2.png) [@Total\_Bedlam](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Total_Bedlam)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/340 "2022-11-26T07:26:49Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > it’s amazing how many gankers flag my posts They’re forum bullies. They’re afraid that their days of griefing for lolz are coming to a close, that their bully tactics are getting nerfed for the good of the game and community and they’ll have to combat real PvPers instead of unarmed lambs. Their days of looting noob ships in Hisec are over. The Future is PvE Ms. Bedlam 🤓 ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/341 "2022-11-26T07:41:40Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > Zkillz tells another story What story does it tell? An imagined one as usual, or is there some actual analysis behind the post? ---
**Author:** ![Total\_Bedlam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/total_bedlam/32/341964_2.png) [@Total\_Bedlam](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Total_Bedlam)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/342 "2022-11-26T08:04:44Z")
> [@x123xxx](#): > > Zkillz tells another story A story of griefers tears and for whom the bell tolls: gankers and their alt-play. It was about time CCP woke up and smelled the bacon to realize that… The Future is PvE Ms. Bedlam 🤓 ---
**Author:** ![Firnikkar\_Firn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/firnikkar_firn/32/344253_2.png) [@Firnikkar\_Firn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Firnikkar_Firn)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/344 "2022-11-26T10:59:09Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Imagine having to live with the shame of knowing you were so bad at a vidya game, you had to lie and cry until the developer had to step in to save you. it means that the coercive measures you use are extremely effective since even the main programmers change the narrative… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/345 "2022-11-26T11:07:48Z")
Remove lowsec. Remove PvP from highsec. Everyone happy. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/346 "2022-11-26T11:21:32Z")
That, and I’d say add a PvP toggle to null-sec as well. Lots of players want to do null-sec PvE without getting griefed by sovereign space owners, so this would be a really popular change that would make lots of people play EVE again. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/347 "2022-11-26T11:27:08Z")
> [@Firnikkar\_Firn](#): > > it means that the coercive measures you use are extremely effective since even the main programmers change the narrative… Not really. People are fallible. For example, the outright lie that Bedlam is telling 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/348 "2022-11-26T11:34:42Z")
Theres no pvp in nullsec. And if there were it should also be removed for the sake of those who want to farm in peace. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/349 "2022-11-26T11:53:53Z")
I think just a toggle is fine for null-sec. That way people who want to fight can fight, because null-sec is a real PvP zone. Other people, who just want to relax and earn some money after a hard day of work, can mine and run PvE sites without being disturbed or griefed. It’s win-win for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/350 "2022-11-26T12:19:33Z")
The toggle for nulsec could be the color blue or purple that comes after the red setting. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377/351 "2022-11-26T12:22:50Z")
Btw what’s the situation with the alpha red safety setting, can you hop into lowsec set it to red then hop back to hisec and have it on red still or the system auto adjusts once you enter hisec? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-when-does-the-new-mechanic-for-ganking-and-standings-drops-take-effect/385377.md?page=16)