# So who's still actually doing anything in Eve ? And what is it your actually doing and why?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 25, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069 "2021-12-25T01:14:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Anneloreke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anneloreke/32/297328_2.png) [@Anneloreke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anneloreke)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/108 "2021-12-31T04:38:11Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> I don’t scam newbros or mission runners

So you claim. Prove it.

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**Author:** ![Peaceful\_Industrialist\_Miner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peaceful_industrialist_miner/32/294138_2.png) [@Peaceful\_Industrialist\_Miner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peaceful_Industrialist_Miner)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/109 "2021-12-31T04:41:36Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> > [@Peaceful\_Industrialist\_Miner](#):
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> > Ironically he scams newbros and mission runners in game using his mission guide chat room…
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> Not only are you a new alt character created specifically to disrupt the forums and instigate flame wars, you’re also a lying troll, I don’t scam newbros or mission runners, nor do I have a mission guide or a mission guide chat room

Right thats why i have seen you yapping away in Eve-Survival chat room leading newbros astray on missions…

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**Author:** ![Yumi\_Saffron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yumi_saffron/32/315093_2.png) [@Yumi\_Saffron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yumi_Saffron)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/110 "2021-12-31T05:07:53Z")

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Out of the game for some 2 months now, but plan to drop to alpha

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/111 "2021-12-31T06:36:20Z")

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Hi, I feel the need to be hunted (I miss Code. James 315) so what I had been up to is sending mining barges to Tama while watching the clock to see how long it takes for them to find me.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/112 "2021-12-31T07:03:20Z")

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> [@Peaceful\_Industrialist\_Miner](#):
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> Right thats why i have seen you yapping away in Eve-Survival chat room leading newbros astray on missions…

First off, that isn’t my channel.  
Secondly, new players aren’t even in that channel.  
Third, that channel is empty 99% of the time.  
Last and most importantly, you’ve never been in that channel when I’ve been in-game so thanks for proving once again just how much of a lying forum troll alt you really are..

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> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> > > [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> > > I’m actually DMC’s alt. Prove me wrong.
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> > You’re not my alt and if you were, I’d biomass your skanky character asap.
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> But can you prove it?

Heh, I don’t have to prove anything. If your statement was true, you could just log into my character (DeMichael Crimson) and post verification, and since that’ll never happen it just proves you’re just another lying forum troll alt..

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> > [@Peaceful\_Industrialist\_Miner](#):
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> > Ironically he scams newbros and mission runners in game using his mission guide chat room…
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> Not only are you a new alt character created specifically to disrupt the forums and instigate flame wars, you’re also a lying troll, I don’t scam newbros or mission runners, nor do I have a mission guide or a mission guide chat room.

> [@Anneloreke](#):
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> > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> > I don’t scam newbros or mission runners
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> So you claim. Prove it.

Burden of proof is on the one who made that allegation…

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/113 "2021-12-31T08:00:30Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> > [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> > > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> > > > [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> > > > I’m actually DMC’s alt. Prove me wrong.
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> > > You’re not my alt and if you were, I’d biomass your skanky character asap.
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> > But can you prove it?
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> Heh, I don’t have to prove anything. If your statement was true, you could just log into my character (DeMichael Crimson) and post verification, and since that’ll never happen it just proves you’re just another lying forum troll alt…

That very suspiciously sounds a lot like something a main would say. 🤔

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/114 "2021-12-31T08:29:06Z")

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I wondered how long it would take for Destiny to show up 😌

I’m just pleased it’s fairly obvious who the alt griefers are and to tell you the truth find it pathetic they act all the big I am behind the alt .  
And what’s funny the alt gankers all answer in the same style.

To get back on track I’m not an alt and will continue to hunt criminal/ganker types until the cow’s come home .

And other related stuff.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/115 "2021-12-31T08:33:00Z")

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So what, rocked my boat.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/116 "2021-12-31T08:43:00Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> I wondered how long it would take for Destiny to show up 😌

It takes me a while to log in to the right forum-posting alt because I keep forgetting the line from American Psycho that I use for my password, so I have to re-watch the entire thing start to finish every time I need to switch accounts.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/117 "2021-12-31T08:46:55Z")

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Maybe for fun we should link all the names that post here and write what we think they are .

Eg.

@Hadrian_Tobran - griefer, blunt and insulting  
@Faylee_Freir - ganker , baiter, Merc ,  
@Destiny_Corrupted - never can make her out , scares me 🤔

That type of thing but remember this is just my opinion .

Or we could do like top trump cards on each of us hehe  
I might try that.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/118 "2021-12-31T08:51:59Z")

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Destiny appears to be an old style war dec player that is rather grumpy at people for not wanting to log in when she needs them to fall to her guns. Nothing much else to say. In fact Faylee Freir is the same in terms of that.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/119 "2021-12-31T09:08:35Z")

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CCP finally fixed EVE by making it impossible for me to grief innocent, hard-working players in-game, so now I can only non-consensually attack others on the forums!

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/120 "2021-12-31T09:14:23Z")

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But they, your prey worked out the ultimate way to grief you, they refused to log in. Simple and very effective…

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**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/121 "2021-12-31T09:21:52Z")

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Nah you totally got me wrong.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/122 "2021-12-31T09:32:21Z")

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Nope, that was never an issue. That’s just the grindbear narrative that was used to extract changes from CCP that led to the effective removal of wars from the game, which was the _actual_ ultimate way they griefed me.

Most normal players in the target corporations were actually happy that something exciting was going on instead of the usual boring

“Whachu doin’, Bob?”  
“Just mining for some ISKies, Fred.”  
“Ah, I’m running one of them missions, Bob, also for some ISKies.”  
“Ayep. Have a good one, Fred.”  
“Talk to you later, Bob.”

The only time that players refused to log in was when their carebear trash CEOs told them to log off for a week to play a different game “until the griefers go away.”

Anyway, I did what all the carebears told me to do in 2016 and adapted. Mainly by liquidating a bunch of no-longer needed characters and assets and donating half a trillion to gankers, which I guarantee has been used to create more tears, dropped accounts, beaten pets, and developer death threats, than I ever could.

Game before Fozzie and Greyscale started making major design decisions:

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/a/3/ca3268295f0e926efcc285c5f43e6fc4b3c247a3.png)

Game after Fozzie and Greyscale started making major design decisions:

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/c/c/2cce9228891b619af9206f8806459b980f29fffc.png)

That truth is _always_ going to sting. But I’m sure you people will find a way to change the narrative somehow.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/123 "2021-12-31T09:51:00Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Heh, I don’t have to prove anything. If your statement was true, you could just log into my character (DeMichael Crimson) and post verification, and since that’ll never happen it just proves you’re just another lying forum troll alt…

Then **I** would be the one proving it, not you. You always talk about proof. Go prove I’m not your alt and if you can’t do that that means you’re a scummy troll because you’re me, right.

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**Author:** ![Anneloreke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anneloreke/32/297328_2.png) [@Anneloreke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anneloreke)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/124 "2021-12-31T10:10:53Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Now sod off

> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Burden of proof is on the one who made that allegation…

Well well… I thought you told me to “sod off” so why in the hell are you still replying to me, dingdong?

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/125 "2021-12-31T11:00:13Z")

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Except that your post exposed your own narrative and own thinking and that of the ones that liked your post way better than I ever could.

You blame CCP however let me point out some key dates , Brave Collective created 20113.05.06 22:20, Pandemic Horde created 2015.04.02 16:29 Karmafleet created 2015.01.15 no time noted on corp creation.

First mass war dec alliance in hisec created June 2010 The Orphanage no less. December 2011 PIRAT created, November 2014 kills over a thousand per month. for the first time Vendetta created February 2013, November 2015 kills over a thousand per month for the first time.

What was this? What was happening?

> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> That truth is _always_ going to sting. But I’m sure you people will find a way to change the narrative somehow.

The truth stings indeed, it also stings narratives…

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**Author:** ![Anneloreke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anneloreke/32/297328_2.png) [@Anneloreke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anneloreke)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/126 "2021-12-31T11:18:22Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Except that your post exposed your own narrative and own thinking and that of the ones that liked your post way better than I ever could

Gees, another paranoid delusional forum warrior, counting the likes and taking notes 😄  
Notice the words “expose” and “narrative” taken straight out of political jargon, in a science-fiction _game_ forum no less!! 😄  
Soon they’ll be assigning political adjectives to describe us: The Ganking Right, The basket of Deplorable Gankers, The extreme formers 😄

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-whos-still-actually-doing-anything-in-eve-and-what-is-it-your-actually-doing-and-why/343069/127 "2021-12-31T11:18:56Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> I’m just pleased it’s fairly obvious who the alt griefers are and to tell you the truth find it pathetic they act all the big I am behind the alt .  
> And what’s funny the alt gankers all answer in the same style.

Yeah, it would be hilarious if their trolling wasn’t so pathetic…

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