# So You Want To Be An AG? Here's A Starter Guide :D **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [September 1, 2022, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486 "2022-09-01T04:41:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/217 "2022-09-30T09:20:45Z")
yeah I know same as my ship replacement submission +1 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/218 "2022-09-30T09:22:57Z")
Oh NO, I am not allowed to Join NEPF Sargon’s warning was extremely clear that Frostpacker can not do that. Jeff knows too so you can go ask him also I am not allowed to join NEPF it would upset the safety of Highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Wah\_Huren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wah_huren/32/394699_2.png) [@Wah\_Huren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wah_Huren)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/219 "2022-09-30T09:30:19Z")
Here, I’ve made you a speshul one Please display it in a prominent position on your Slasher > **[Image tagged in benny hill - thur yeth thur](https://imgflip.com/i/6v8im8)** > > An image tagged benny hill - thur yeth thur ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/220 "2022-09-30T09:35:25Z")
All I can say is that RP had ended and Frostpacker no longer supports Safety. / Should add that Frostpacker does support Eve Pandora and strongly feels it offers something better to New Capsuleer’s than what Code. or Safety did or can do for new pilots. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/221 "2022-09-30T15:51:10Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Oh NO, I am not allowed to Join NEPF Sargon’s warning was extremely clear Why how have we upset Sargon ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/222 "2022-09-30T18:07:44Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Why how have we upset Sargon People who over react do not deserve any sympathy. We should not encourage temper tantrums. / > [@Wah\_Huren](#): > > admittedly, they are about as useful as a Mining ‘Permit’ (which do sometimes come in handy when the supply of toilet paper runs out on long warps…) Let’s try to make something clear, the mining permit I owned & held was valid. I was given free passage to mine in Uedama. (tbh don’t even know how that permit was taken away but all I recall is upsetting Sargon "aka; _The Chosen One_ … a title given out by Frostpacker) Now we are just waiting for my new AG permit to allow me to mine and collect frozen corpses in Uedama. _Frostpacker treats all permits very seriously!_ ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/223 "2022-10-01T09:15:12Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Now we are just waiting for my new AG permit to allow me to mine and collect frozen corpses in Uedama. > > _Frostpacker treats all permits very seriously!_ I was thinking the corpses have no real use in eve. May be we should make them collectables linked to a kill mail and a playing card like people collect sports card eams I’m sure a set of aiko alt would sell for some isk Goon leadership might be fun to have too. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/224 "2022-10-01T09:24:35Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > I’m sure a set of aiko alt would sell for some isk > > Goon leadership might be fun to have too. sure just like a spoon collection club ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/225 "2022-10-01T16:13:22Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > My guide clearly outlines what they are doing wrong I don’t recall a master anti ganker called @Gix_Firebrand. Want to refresh my memory of his anti ganking prowess? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/226 "2022-10-01T19:12:23Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > I don’t recall a master anti ganker called @Gix_Firebrand. Want to refresh my memory of his anti ganking prowess? I spent about a month AGing. Promptly solved ganking. Shared my tips to NEPF, which fell on deaf ears. I’m well aware AG doesn’t fund itself, hence why you have to build an alliance who does. The thing is, they don’t wanna do the work. Also I figured out most AG can’t PvP their way out of a paper bag. They have no idea how to actually hunt other players nor how to construct a pursuit fleet. They don’t want to learn the pipelines or routes they take. They don’t wanna field bait ops. Ganking and AGing is a very specialized form of PvP. That is weighted on the side of AG. It allows for specialized fits that would not work outside of HS. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/227 "2022-10-01T19:17:07Z")
I tried AG. Turns out, it completely sucks because: 1. the people you are trying to protect are AFK and mostly haven’t a clue you saved them from a gank. 2. those that do get ganked pitch a major fit and call you an utter failure at AG because you weren’t there and didn’t save their entitled afk ass. It’s such a loose loose proposition. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/228 "2022-10-01T19:21:47Z")
Calm down anti-ganker! 😈 Also get better at AG. 😛 😏 🍿 :dealwithitparrot: ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/229 "2022-10-01T19:24:58Z")
I suck so bad at anti-ganking I gave it up for a much more amusing and profitable venture. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/230 "2022-10-01T19:26:20Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > profitable `venture` So became a miner. 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/231 "2022-10-01T19:28:36Z")
Sure. 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/232 "2022-10-01T19:28:53Z")
Salt mining is a thing too. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/233 "2022-10-01T19:30:47Z")
Hence the “😏” ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/234 "2022-10-01T19:31:48Z")
I know was just stating for the sake of the carebears who might read this and not get what the conversation is about. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/235 "2022-10-01T19:33:47Z")
Why? They are too busy being afk to read to forums. Except for like, 3 of them that don’t play the game anymore and use that time to shitpost advocate for the afk carebear instead. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/236 "2022-10-01T19:34:56Z")
I am inclusive and give them the benefit of doubt too. Besides they tend to post their karen threads about ganking and how it should be nerfed or even removed from the game so surely they read and post on the forums. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486.md?page=11)