# So You Want To Be An AG? Here's A Starter Guide :D **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [September 1, 2022, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486 "2022-09-01T04:41:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/237 "2022-10-01T19:38:50Z")
Just imagine the utopia they would create. A world of no ganking and effortless isk grinding…. And the topics on the forum would be “this game sucks, it’s too easy.” “CCP needs to make the game more challenging or I’m leaving” “3 things to make EvE better. Harder NPCs, PvP and redistribution of the isk wealth.” “Market prices have crashed. Too much Veldspar by the big alliance miners have pushed out the new bro. Ban alliances.” You get the idea. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/238 "2022-10-01T19:40:42Z")
This is why their complains are so ridiculous as a slight bit of common sense would make them realize the err of their complaints. Same goes for like “give alphas access to barges” and whatnot. Same thing that would have the same result. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/239 "2022-10-01T19:43:42Z")
Common sense isn’t a virtue anymore. Entitlement is. Get with the times, Boomer. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/240 "2022-10-01T19:46:08Z")
That’s how it goes. At least they provide some mild entertainment value in the process. Better than nothing I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/241 "2022-10-01T19:54:40Z")
Only advisable if you use Spoon Guard #banspoonguard ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/242 "2022-10-01T21:27:29Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Ganking and AGing is a very specialized form of PvP How so? @Lucas_Kell said that ganking takes no skill, does he lie? ---
**Author:** ![Wah\_Huren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wah_huren/32/394699_2.png) [@Wah\_Huren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wah_Huren)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/243 "2022-10-01T23:30:30Z")
Won’t it depend? If you’re the scout, or the FC deciding which target is feasible, then yes, it does take skill and experience. If you’re there in a DPS Cat to approach and scram, shoot and maybe web the target, then , not so much… ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/244 "2022-10-02T00:49:08Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > #banspoonguard Spoon Guard [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3KDCA\_VmNk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3KDCA_VmNk) ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/245 "2022-10-02T02:33:55Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > How so? @Lucas_Kell said that ganking takes no skill, does he lie? very much so 😃 > [@Wah\_Huren](#): > > If you’re there in a DPS Cat to approach and scram, shoot and maybe web the target, then , not so much… Because most times the players are quafeheads and not paying attention like they should. It is obvious ya’ll have never actually hunted players who are actively trying to get away. Actually pinning down people trying to evade isn’t as easy as it sounds. Also if they were smart and travel fit their expensive ships, it’d be even harder. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/246 "2022-10-02T05:43:47Z")
I love how the gank-haters says that we are multiboxing because we are anti-social, greedy and don’t want to split loot, or just lazy to get a friend. Yet at the same time they call those gankers who are helping others and just sit idle till the action starts a no-skill, no-effort, lazy and I don’t even remember what else. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/247 "2022-10-02T05:50:21Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > I love how the gank-haters says that we are multiboxing because we are anti-social Meanwhile, the true anti-socials are the players that just want to be left alone to solo PVE content, without any possibility of interaction with anyone else. They’re even more anti-social when they come to the forum to complain that someone interacted with them. The whole position of carebears is arse about. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/248 "2022-10-02T06:49:21Z")
It just shows how little do they know about the activity they are complaining about. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/249 "2022-10-02T08:06:31Z")
Remember kids, krabs arent just for Nullmas ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/250 "2022-10-02T10:32:52Z")
Off topic: anyone noticed Cylla’s new alt on the forums? They are starting to break character. See if you can spot them. On topic: So apparently there are plenty of AGers according to Brisc. How many AGers compared to Gers do you think he considers plenty? Or has he just made an off the cuff comment without considering it? ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/251 "2022-10-02T10:56:42Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Also if they were smart and travel fit their expensive ships, it’d be even harder. Yes Aiko fits warp core stabs to her cat to evade our hunting fleets ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/252 "2022-10-02T10:57:01Z")
His dismissing reply on my cheeky suggestion made me think some more, also after watching the meta show last night. How many players are true hisec gankers ? Brisc may have a point, who knows. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/253 "2022-10-02T11:02:38Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > How many players are true hisec gankers ? Brisc may have a point, who knows. Brisc is a ganker too, I need his corpse to add to my high sec ganker collection 😊 Was the meta show good, look forward to that later ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/254 "2022-10-02T11:07:08Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > who knows. Well exactly He loves fostering the isdea he knows i sider info then claiming he doesnt. Much like when CCP does something unfortunate, he says the CSM has no power, but when something changes for the better, he takes credit. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/255 "2022-10-02T11:07:33Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Was the mata show good, look forward to that later Yes, it was highly informative because it finally gave room to the other side’s position, how hisec gankers see the game and the impact, and explaining what and why, and putting things into perspective. If anything it was also an antidote to the toxicity in the many threads about ganking, toxicity from people unwilling to accept the heart of the game and unwilling to make token efforts to avoid getting killed in space, unwilling to acknowledge this is a multiplayer full-on pvp game anywhere on the map. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/256 "2022-10-02T11:11:48Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Brisc is a ganker too, I need his corpse to add to my high sec ganker collection 😊 I think he would welcome the challenge to pod him, live stream it and not call it stream sniping afterwards. That’s the whole difference 😃 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486.md?page=12)