# So You Want To Be An AG? Here's A Starter Guide :D **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [September 1, 2022, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486 "2022-09-01T04:41:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/89 "2022-09-19T21:50:43Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > You seem to be under the misunderstanding that AGers want gankers gone. In reality, gankers are their whole reason for being šŸ˜ƒ But but but without gankers, AGs could finally engage in all this sweet and super fun PVE and mining. Which they want to do, but cannot because gankers exists. They donā€™t want to sit hours on Sivala gate whoring on CONCORD kills and accomplishing nothing. They want to actually play the game and do lvl 4 missions in blinged marauders and mine plagio in 0.5 in ORE stripper hulks. But because those stupid gankers they are unable to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/90 "2022-09-19T21:53:30Z")
If I were AG, Iā€™d want even more people to gank, because then more action. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/92 "2022-09-19T22:11:54Z")
And Gith says they do šŸ˜ƒ Are you calling a notable AGer a liar? ---
**Author:** ![Aquablue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aquablue/32/339399_2.png) [@Aquablue](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aquablue)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/94 "2022-09-19T22:27:14Z")
Ganking has many counters, why do players continuously deny this fact? Inconvenient yes, but watch local, watch d-scan, watch intel, donā€™t autopilot, donā€™t AFK, use your contacts list etcā€¦ itā€™s frustratingly easy. Iā€™ve been on both ends of the spectrum and I can confirm AG provides easy / low-risk content. Whilst ganking requires meticulous planning, co-ordination, optimals, timing etc. (to name a few variables). ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/95 "2022-09-19T22:48:52Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > If heā€™s claiming that AG groups have an impact on gankers then yes, heā€™s a liar. Wow ROFL. Also uh, Gith is a girl. > [@Aquablue](#): > > Iā€™ve been on both ends of the spectrum and I can confirm AG provides easy / low-risk content. Whilst ganking requires meticulous planning, co-ordination, optimals, timing etc. (to name a few variables). Chip truth omae šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/97 "2022-09-19T23:03:16Z")
You are correct. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/98 "2022-09-19T23:37:01Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Numerous gankers have claimed AG is simple but precisely zero have demonstrated any ability to make any meaningful dent in ganking thus far. We made a very big dent in the large ganks in places like uedama, we stopped many ganks, we even stopped Kusion 3 times in a row one day, our burst attacks on gank fleets work great, we even had success in stopping moving gank fleets going after miners, until they realised how good we was at that, now they wonā€™t come near us. Like I said before gankers donā€™t want to die to us and will find away around it. Now they mostly attack miner and missions with a rich pool of targets to pick, we can never be in the right place and if we are they move on. Only thing we can do is blockade an area but that gets boring fast, which we sometime have done in the past with big mining fleets we know. It really needs miners to work together more and ask us for some cover why they mine ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/99 "2022-09-19T23:39:28Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > now they wonā€™t come near us. According to Lucas, youā€™re just lying apparently šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/100 "2022-09-19T23:43:52Z")
Maybe he doesnā€™t have all the facts, Eve is a funny place, the other day I was 3 jumps from the pipe and chatting to locals and they had never heard of Safety or Aiko or AG ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/102 "2022-09-20T00:06:42Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Thereā€™s clearly not been any dents in Uedama ganking. The above is just your opinion to be clear. I have been involved in many successful saves with many of the techniques Gix suggested in his post. Please stop derailing threads or start one of your own and post there ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/103 "2022-09-20T00:18:09Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Lying or delusional. Thereā€™s clearly not been any dents in Uedama ganking. Uh huh. So youā€™re saying she should stop taking in game action and simply cry to daddy CCP? > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Please stop derailing threads or start one of your own and post there You caught on to what heā€™s doing huh? šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/104 "2022-09-20T00:32:26Z")
I donā€™t think he can physically not post about ganking and how everyone else is completely wrong about almost everything. You could type ā€œI took my dog for a walk todayā€ and almost immediately get back an ā€œIncorrectā€. Of course, to hear him say it, he is hardly concerned about ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/105 "2022-09-20T00:44:10Z")
> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#): > > wrong about almost everything. Very true. He also wonā€™t share his secrets to keep the nubs safe. Interesting šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/107 "2022-09-20T01:46:28Z")
Iā€™m not a ganker shill. ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/108 "2022-09-20T02:28:37Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > guess ā€œganker shillā€ it is then. If you think @Githany_Red is a ganker shill, you would have lost any credibility you still had, if you had any. Fortunately for you, after you deleted all the comments you made about gankers just being basement dwelling psychotic incels and then trying to act like you were the one being personally attacked all the time, thatā€™s not something you have to worry about. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/109 "2022-09-20T02:44:07Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I seriously doubt that. Youā€™re either incredibly deluded or youā€™re a ganker shill. Calling Gith a ganker shill is just chefā€™s kiss LOL. > [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#): > > you would have lost any credibility True. Heā€™s kinda killed my theory with that tho haha. Maybe if heā€™d follow my guide, he could save AG ā˜¹ ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/110 "2022-09-20T02:46:35Z")
> [@Aquablue](#): > > Ganking has many counters, why do players continuously deny this fact? Propaganda, morale boost ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/111 "2022-09-20T03:48:09Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > So youā€™re saying she should stop taking in game action and simply cry to daddy CCP? Yeeees! Really, why hasnā€™t she?! Crying to CCP is the way to achieve your dreams in EVE, nullsec blocs can tell. @Githany_Red stop being so proud and and start crying and demanding CCP to nerf ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/112 "2022-09-20T05:10:58Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Iā€™m not a ganker shill Now first I found out Iā€™m someoneā€™s AI alt gone rogue, now Iā€™m a ganker shill. Can I ask whatā€™s a shill . I was going to google it but I thought as I go on about Eve only works best with other players I will try and ask a human being, so enlighten me if you fit that roll. (Sorry didnā€™t mean to ask just Aiko, itā€™s open to anyone ) ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/so-you-want-to-be-an-ag-heres-a-starter-guide-d/375486/113 "2022-09-20T05:12:19Z")
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