# SoCT Capsuleer Gathering: CONCORD's Call to Arms

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [April 12, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180 "2018-04-12T02:33:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/81 "2018-04-17T12:50:28Z")

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> [@Diana\_Kim](#):
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> I prefer to fight for something that has meaning for me.

Making new friends may be such a thing. Dont know if that would be the case, but we could always try. I would definitely try supporting Triglavians.

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**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/82 "2018-04-17T16:02:29Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> That would be probably an opportunity to take sides if you ask me. Not watching passively.

Well, you’re not wrong.

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**Author:** ![Avio\_Yaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avio_yaken/32/494184_2.png) [@Avio\_Yaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avio_Yaken)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/83 "2018-04-17T16:35:52Z")

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> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#):
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> CONCORD’s comments on the Collective were interesting. It sounded like there was something fairly radical about the way they’ve developed as a people.

I see that there are two possibilities with the Tirglavians. One, they’ve been isolated for quite some time. Or secondly, apart of a political theater we have no knowledge of even existing; as shown with their war with the Drifters. Their culture and way of think can all be a product of their world; physically, politically or even spiritually.

The technology they’ve built may be from demand from unique situations they need a solution to, much like with them having access to these Abyssal pockets. They wouldn’t be spotted there if they didn’t have some reason to be there. Either it being their turf or new space they themselves are now just exploring. Exploring for what purpose? Fighting Drifters why?

Questions that we will find answers to in due time.

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**Author:** ![Umbre\_Fallenstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/umbre_fallenstar/32/260859_2.png) [@Umbre\_Fallenstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Umbre_Fallenstar)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/84 "2018-04-17T16:52:19Z")

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I agree, but on my opinion, before thinking about every of those questions, we need to know if there is anyone still “alive”.  
The sleepers too are “of human origins”, if you catch my meaning ^^"

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**Author:** ![Avio\_Yaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avio_yaken/32/494184_2.png) [@Avio\_Yaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avio_Yaken)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/85 "2018-04-17T17:00:12Z")

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> [@Umbre\_Fallenstar](#):
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> I agree, but on my opinion, before thinking about every of those questions, we need to know if there is anyone still “alive”.

This is a question that will be answered along those i presented. Even if they wern’t “Alive” - there still remains the questions of why they’re at war with the Drifters or what they’re doing in these pockets of deadspace.

We won’t just discover “Oh, they’re just disgusting gutted corpses propped up with augmentations like those Drifters” and end it at that. No, there are hundreds of questions still to be asked from what we’ve seen so far.

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**Author:** ![Umbre\_Fallenstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/umbre_fallenstar/32/260859_2.png) [@Umbre\_Fallenstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Umbre_Fallenstar)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/86 "2018-04-17T17:07:48Z")

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oh I completely agree on this ^^  
the TC enigma is highly interesting and I do hope that we will get answers soon, and probably even more questions will rise!

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/87 "2018-04-17T17:33:56Z")

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One thing that concerns me a little is how much cultures get shaped by their living situation. The Caldari, children of basically a ball of mud and ice studded with trees, have some very particular ideas about the nature and meaning of life.

(Life is a crucible burning away weakness / the purpose of life is to ensure survival / well we don’t mean your survival personally, old man; we mean the community generally, and food’s running short; thank you very much for all your contributions over the years we will honor your sacrifice and oh aren’t the woods going to be pretty by moonlight at this time of the year.)

(I’m a little glad to have been educated in a culture that just had to worry about earthquakes, tsunamis, and abuptly-murderous weather.)

Now consider that the Triglavians have apparently been living in what’s apparently a terrifyingly hostile environment for at least thousands of years. We’ve apparently never found a trace of them outside it, which means they’re either a new category of Ancients or one of the old ones that’s changed so much we don’t recognize them anymore.

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**Author:** ![Umbre\_Fallenstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/umbre_fallenstar/32/260859_2.png) [@Umbre\_Fallenstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Umbre_Fallenstar)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/88 "2018-04-17T17:35:27Z")

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One more thought to add: what caused them to go live in such pockets in the first place ?

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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/89 "2018-04-17T17:41:52Z")

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Easy.

They’re tired of being disturbed by outsiders.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/90 "2018-04-17T22:06:11Z")

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> [@Nomistrav](#):
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> EDIT: And again, if it is NOT us… It WILL be other capsuleers.

Oh, even if it _is_ you… it will be _us_. I can tell you there are already about a thousand arms producers champing at the bit just in Delve, looking to flood the local market with these ships, their weapons, their armor technology, all of it.

The new arms race is upon us. Morally justifiable or no, if these things are even close to being as potent as they appear, the choices at this point would appear to be ‘get on the train’ or ‘get run over by it’.

Still, @Aradina_Varren, @Makoto_Priano, you have to admit…

> [@Teinyhr](#):
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> sliced kyonoke

You gotta admit, sliced kyonoke’d be a pretty bad thing to show up in loaves on the grocery shelves, neh?

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**Author:** ![Aradina\_Varren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aradina_varren/32/398702_2.png) [@Aradina\_Varren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aradina_Varren)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/91 "2018-04-17T23:36:13Z")

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What. I mean yes, it would be. But I don’t get it.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/92 "2018-04-17T23:37:36Z")

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DERP! That was supposed to be to @Aria_Jenneth. Stupid neocom autocorrect.

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**Author:** ![Aradina\_Varren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aradina_varren/32/398702_2.png) [@Aradina\_Varren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aradina_Varren)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/93 "2018-04-17T23:38:16Z")

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Oh. Guess I’ll just go then.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/94 "2018-04-17T23:42:11Z")

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Wait, what? No, I just meant I wasn’t trying to be obscure or call you out on something you weren’t involved in, ya goof. 😛

Besides, where would you go?

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**Author:** ![Aradina\_Varren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aradina_varren/32/398702_2.png) [@Aradina\_Varren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aradina_Varren)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/95 "2018-04-17T23:45:10Z")

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That’s true, this isn’t a physical place and as such I can’t actually leave.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/96 "2018-04-17T23:47:05Z")

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Nope! You’re _dooooooooomed_!! _ **DOOOOOOOOOOOMED** _!! You’ll spend eternity here with us in the aether, never able to truly escape!

Wow, that’s a bleak idea.

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**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/97 "2018-04-17T23:57:21Z")

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I’m not entirely convinced we are not living in some sort of cosmic punishment sphere. Either that, or the universe is just a cold, sad place. Sadder and colder than I ever fathomed it to be.

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**Author:** ![Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/morgana_tsukiyo/32/385507_2.png) [@Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Morgana_Tsukiyo)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/98 "2018-04-18T01:50:21Z")

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All the math points to our universe being a computer simulation.

Imagine _that_ 🤔

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**Author:** ![Avio\_Yaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avio_yaken/32/494184_2.png) [@Avio\_Yaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avio_Yaken)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/99 "2018-04-18T02:34:00Z")

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> [@Morgana\_Tsukiyo](#):
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> All the math points to our universe being a computer simulation.

Blah! Malarkey is what that sounds like – Just look around! This is the Maker’s universe we find ourselves in. Every rock from the asteroids to the planets sprawling with life are genuine and unmistakable to that found in some virtual realm.

> [@Teinyhr](#):
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> Either that, or the universe is just a cold, sad place. Sadder and colder than I ever fathomed it to be.

What possibly gives that impression of New Eden? Cold? Damn thing is practically on fire with the amount of activity and life is Capsuleers have brought it. Every day a battle is being waged, volumes of commodities moving between gates, raw resources being gathered and put to productive uses like building ships or stations.

There’s not a single thing sad about our universe beside the fact that infectious cancers like Rogue Drones and Drifters lurking about. But those are problems that undoubtely have a solution.

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**Author:** ![Aradina\_Varren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aradina_varren/32/398702_2.png) [@Aradina\_Varren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aradina_Varren)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soct-capsuleer-gathering-concords-call-to-arms/69180/100 "2018-04-18T03:02:17Z")

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I love me some **DOOOM**

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