# \[SoERR\] Assistance in the current Empire crisis

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [December 11, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273 "2018-12-11T19:53:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/102 "2018-12-20T06:53:16Z")

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> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> This is a clear provocation and not just from capsuleer forces but also internationally, which I will take it up with the appropriate authorities.

The clear provocation was _Electus Matari_ trying to capitalize on a disaster in the _Amarr Empire_ by setting up an offensive base over an Amarrian world in crisis.

Don’t act like you didn’t know what you were doing, Rhiannon. You’re not dumb.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/103 "2018-12-20T07:05:32Z")

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You are not the proper authority, Arsia Elkin.

However, I will clarify that Electus Matari did no such thing. If anyone, SoERR did, this being my venture and I the CEO. I have, however, not broken alliance RoE and all my actions in space have been according to the Yulai convention stipulations for independent capsuleers.

And yes, I like to think I know what I am doing.

Elsebeth

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**Author:** ![Alizabeth\_Vea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alizabeth_vea/32/122884_2.png) [@Alizabeth\_Vea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alizabeth_Vea)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/104 "2018-12-20T08:17:33Z")

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I feel like this is really going to hinder my efforts to get pancakes.

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**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/105 "2018-12-20T08:53:29Z")

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Captain Elkin’s pancakes are better, anyways. They will have been made in a proper kitchen with far less risk of contamination.

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**Author:** ![Alizabeth\_Vea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alizabeth_vea/32/122884_2.png) [@Alizabeth\_Vea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alizabeth_Vea)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/106 "2018-12-20T08:58:42Z")

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We’ve been sisters for quite a few years now and she’s never made me pancakes. In fact. This is the first I am hearing of her pancakes.

Why did no one tell me of these pancakes before?

However, my lord, are you insinuating that the Interstellar House of Pancakes on Cpt. Rhiannon’s citadel would not have the proper health inspections and necessary procedures to run a restaurant? I find that hard to believe.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/107 "2018-12-20T09:01:03Z")

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> [@Alizabeth\_Vea](#):
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> Interstellar House of Pancakes on Cpt. Rhiannon’s citadel would not have the proper health inspections and necessary procedures to run a restaurant

I assure you SoERR humanitarian operations are quite capable of running a clean station. Proper sanitation and hygiene is crucial in an evacuation situation. Epidemics can spread quickly in a migrant, weakened, and wounded population if proper care is not taken. Same care applies to the capsuleer lounge sharing the station, naturally.

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**Author:** ![Alizabeth\_Vea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alizabeth_vea/32/122884_2.png) [@Alizabeth\_Vea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alizabeth_Vea)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/108 "2018-12-20T09:13:52Z")

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I’m sure you’re taking diligent steps to ensure that persons on your citadel are well cared for. I really expect nothing else.

It’s a shame that I am unable to dock and partake of the pancakes.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/109 "2018-12-20T09:56:35Z")

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> [@Alizabeth\_Vea](#):
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> It’s a shame that I am unable to dock and partake of the pancakes.

Well the whole _murdering my people_ kind of comes in between you and docking anywhere I can stop it.

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**Author:** ![Kuba\_Ganowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuba_ganowski/32/87636_2.png) [@Kuba\_Ganowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuba_Ganowski)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/112 "2018-12-20T10:33:08Z")

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My english isnt that good as it should be but believe me… Mrs. Janinka will translate for you everything perfectly

Annarian bastards ,me and My People are coming for you….

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**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/504852_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/113 "2018-12-20T17:40:31Z")

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Once again the true face of the slavery death cult is revealed as one of its most ardent supporters decides to wage war against a neutral humanitarian operation being run by SOERR.

Very well. If it’s war you want then war you shall have.

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**Author:** ![Seraphea\_Vellastraan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/seraphea_vellastraan/32/297158_2.png) [@Seraphea\_Vellastraan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Seraphea_Vellastraan)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/114 "2018-12-20T21:35:05Z")

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I have brought a thousand bushels of apples from my family’s orchards. There can be more foodstuffs donated once I know what exactly is in need.

Also, Father Maynard, a priest of my Tribe has asked to come visit the citadel and speak to some of the refugees to try and undo some of the spiritual damage the Empire did. May he have permission to come aboard?

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/115 "2018-12-20T21:37:08Z")

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At this point I have to ask that all humanitarian support be directed to the Mabnen station operation. The situation is Thebeka is… delicate, shall we say? A separate announcement will follow.

That station is also a big freeport, so your preacher should have no difficulty operating.

Elsebeth

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**Author:** ![Armast\_Darkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armast_darkar/32/173723_2.png) [@Armast\_Darkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armast_Darkar)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/116 "2018-12-20T21:40:31Z")

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Captain Rhiannon,

I would like to inquire if those who sought refuge from my organization have already been evacuated? I will redirect the remaining personnel left for evacuation to other locations to ease the stress on your transportation network.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/117 "2018-12-20T21:42:25Z")

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> [@Armast\_Darkar](#):
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> I would like to inquire if those who sought refuge from my organization have already been evacuated? I will redirect the remaining personnel left for evacuation to other locations to ease the stress on your transportation network.

I cannot quote exacts, as I do not have them here, but they have either been evacuated or will be evacuated in time. There is currently no reason to expect trouble on that front.

Elsebeth

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**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/118 "2018-12-20T21:54:35Z")

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EM hasn’t been neutral towards Amarr in a very long time, if they ever were. They have been commiting acts of war against Amarr ever since ReAwakened and MUFF decided to go commerce raiding over a decade ago. And it’s not like their activity ceased in the intervening years. Just off the top of my head, EM repeatedly joined the TLF and, most recently, Elsebeth personally was involved in the Kahah invasion attempt.

That an organization with such a long history of attacking Amarr would try to call themselves neutral is just absurd.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/119 "2018-12-20T21:55:53Z")

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> [@\[SoERR\]\[EM\] Changes in status and services](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-changes-in-status-and-services/128530):
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> I am sorry to report that due to combined capsuleer and government interference with the operations of SoERR waystation Freedom’s Gate at Thebeka, we have decided it is the safest course of action to change the status of the station from primarily a humanitarian waystation into a combat base. Electus Matari warships with their usual marine contingents have started to arrive to the station, among them those of Challis Drant, the alliance executor. What ground logistics and support capacity we ha…

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**Author:** ![Terenius\_Neo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terenius_neo/32/391372_2.png) [@Terenius\_Neo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terenius_Neo)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/120 "2018-12-20T22:01:36Z")

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Okay… action.

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**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/504852_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/121 "2018-12-21T05:47:19Z")

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> [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](#):
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> EM hasn’t been neutral towards Amarr in a very long time, if they ever were.

Incorrect. EM is primarily concerned with building up the industrial backbone of the Republic and keeping Republic spacelanes clear of pirates. The only reason we give a damn about what happens inside imperial borders are the billions of our people initially captured illegally and now their descendants.

As to EM occasionally joining in the pretend wars, so has your organization. Probably quite a bit more than EM, actually.

Be that as it may, SOERR’s structures were not offensive in nature; they were unarmed and humanitarian and it was _your_ _organization_ that escalated this conflict by declaring war, not us.

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**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/122 "2018-12-21T06:25:56Z")

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> [@Anabella\_Rella](#):
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> As to EM occasionally joining in the pretend wars, so has your organization. Probably quite a bit more than EM, actually

Certainly, but we aren’t claiming neutrality to the Republic. That would be absurd.

Just about as absurd as you pretending Elsebeth’s ‘Humanitarian’ operation wasn’t a front for arms and personnel smuggling to aid the Thebeka rebellion.

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**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/504852_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2018, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-assistance-in-the-current-empire-crisis/126273/123 "2018-12-21T06:31:01Z")

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Believe what you will but I know Elsebeth. You don’t. If she said her structure was set up for humanitarian operations, I will take her word over your biased suppositions.

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