# \[SoERR\] Humanitarian aid in the current Empire crisis **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [March 19, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-humanitarian-aid-in-the-current-empire-crisis/147214 "2019-03-19T15:26:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-humanitarian-aid-in-the-current-empire-crisis/147214/101 "2019-03-30T13:22:37Z")
Because they thoroughly deserve it. > [@\[Newelle Family\] On Seeking Justice](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/newelle-family-on-seeking-justice/146787/8): > > And of course they are going to arm rebels. It’s kind of been the Minmatar’s unofficial/official policy since the Day of Darkness to fight back. Everyone knows this whole thing about ‘humanitarian aid’ is a load of crap. ---
**Author:** ![Kithrus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kithrus/32/341031_2.png) [@Kithrus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kithrus)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-humanitarian-aid-in-the-current-empire-crisis/147214/102 "2019-03-30T15:51:01Z")
> [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](#): > > Neither you nor you organization can be trusted to provide proper oversight. > > Next. I feel like this requires proper context. If you personally refuse to work with me or my associates that is a personal problem but don’t assume why I or how I work with those I do. I have people like Vlad for instance to deal with work best suited to Vlads talents. I wouldn’t send Vlad to Anath anymore then I’d send a Cyber-knight to dust my library. Just because he is in my employ doesn’t mean I’m going to waste his time, mine or yours sending him where he can’t be made useful. With that in mind I’ll thank you Lord Consort to remember that I’ve stood by you before you wore that title, I believed in you before you were ennobled. I shared my mind with you, drank at your side and if you ever needed me I would spring to your aid. If you see me the same is irreverent, I see you as what the empire should be and will defend that, you and your family. I hope you remember that. That said stop being a dick. ---
**Author:** ![Alizabeth\_Vea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alizabeth_vea/32/122884_2.png) [@Alizabeth\_Vea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alizabeth_Vea)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-humanitarian-aid-in-the-current-empire-crisis/147214/103 "2019-03-30T17:30:24Z")
I am certain Elsebeth would be arming rebels, _if there were rebels to arm._ There are none to be found. It’s like taking an alcoholic to a dry party; you don’t have to worry about her drunkenly hitting on everyone she crosses or breaking things when she’s rejected. Of course, we’re still keeping tabs on everything going on in Anath. ---
**Author:** ![Alizabeth\_Vea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alizabeth_vea/32/122884_2.png) [@Alizabeth\_Vea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alizabeth_Vea)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-humanitarian-aid-in-the-current-empire-crisis/147214/104 "2019-03-31T05:14:00Z")
You can stop looking for Izimalu. Thank you for trying, Elsebeth. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-humanitarian-aid-in-the-current-empire-crisis/147214/105 "2019-03-31T14:56:17Z")
> [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](#): > > Since you clearly cannot be trusted to operate in good faith within Imperial borders, would you be willing to offer your aid supplies to LUMEN or a neutral third party? Maybe you should talk to your allies more often. Else ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-humanitarian-aid-in-the-current-empire-crisis/147214/106 "2019-03-31T15:17:39Z")
Or perhaps they should speak with me more often. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-humanitarian-aid-in-the-current-empire-crisis/147214/107 "2019-03-31T16:20:10Z")
A brief interjection: A frequent affair we see is pilots and organizations decrying that others have not contacted them. Sometimes, you must be the first to reach out. The confidence or humility required to do so can be a challenge, I understand. Still, it’s necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-humanitarian-aid-in-the-current-empire-crisis/147214/108 "2019-03-31T16:38:13Z")
We’ve talked. Things are clearer now. Elsebeth still should stay out of the Empire, and now more people agree on that point. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-humanitarian-aid-in-the-current-empire-crisis/147214/109 "2019-03-31T16:42:54Z")
> [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](#): > > Elsebeth still should stay out of the Empire, and now more people agree on that point. Maybe you should stop bullying your allies over what an enemy says on IGS? Else ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-humanitarian-aid-in-the-current-empire-crisis/147214/110 "2019-03-31T16:43:50Z")
I haven’t bullied any allies as far as I am aware. The point was made self-evident. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-humanitarian-aid-in-the-current-empire-crisis/147214/111 "2019-03-31T23:24:09Z")
Given the way you, personally, treat even members of your own corporation… I think you should maybe re-calibrate your metrics on that one. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-humanitarian-aid-in-the-current-empire-crisis/147214/112 "2019-04-01T04:47:59Z")
**Status update:** As also posted by other organizations, the situation in Anath currently seemed to leave very little to hope for outsider rescue & survival enhancement. The work here by independents is sadly largely done. I will leave the SoE RR humanitarian stash (what is left of it), offices, and basic staff in Tisot, with the Sisters of EVE, for now. The area can sure use the help. We encourage locals in need of transport to attempt contact with Roughriders staff in the region. My sincere thanks to all the donations of materials and work received, and to local and capsuleer aid organizations for all the (sometimes unlikely) co-operation at the service of the people. Donations of food, water, textiles, construction materials and medical supplies are welcome _in Pator_ to replenish the general stash. Elsebeth Rhiannon CEO, SoE Roughriders ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2019, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soerr-humanitarian-aid-in-the-current-empire-crisis/147214/113 "2019-06-30T04:57:57Z")
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