# Solo PvP Mentallity or the lack of it **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Tags:** pvp\ **Created:** [March 26, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solo-pvp-mentallity-or-the-lack-of-it/302324 "2021-03-26T15:47:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 3:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solo-pvp-mentallity-or-the-lack-of-it/302324/21 "2021-03-30T03:56:46Z")
OP, I’m sorry to say, but you’re wrong on pretty much every point you made (except one, which I’ll get to in a second). I’ll give you one tip, _exactly one_, since you should be able to learn stuff like fitting and strategy on your own: you need to find a _reason_ to PvP. PvP in EVE is a means to an end, not an end in itself (which is common to generic multiplayer PvP games like shooters). Fighting has to _intend to accomplish_ some kind of goal to make you better off in the game compared to before. Maybe it’s loot, or better stats, or respectability, but it has to be _something_. If you only fight for the sake of fighting and throwing a “gf” in local without thinking about it, you likely will never make it past a certain level of skill, and more importantly, _personal satisfaction_. Of course the goal _can_ be to learn how to fight better, in which case it’s acceptable to go out and look for fights for the sake of fighting alone, _for a while_. But at some point you’ll have to move past that, and turn your eye into growing your own empire. And you need to drop your notion of the existence of “griefing” ASAP. It _doesn’t actually exist_, and thinking this way is holding you back right now. > [@Edmorte\_Fehrnah](#): > > My critique here is people are not taking the fight unless they are 99% they can win. Then you make them _think_ that they can win. This type of social engineering is one of the most important skills required for being a good PvPer. > [@Edmorte\_Fehrnah](#): > > Another problem, CCP is so fixed into getting you in trouble with factions it’s hard to experiment without closing your door in PvE. I do agree with this part. The standings system is terrible, and pushes you toward having dedicated characters for specific tasks. Which, quite honestly, is likely by design, since CCP would absolutely love it if everyone paid for dozens of alts. ---
**Author:** ![Barrak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/barrak/32/451899_2.png) [@Barrak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Barrak)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2021, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solo-pvp-mentallity-or-the-lack-of-it/302324/22 "2021-04-02T13:36:50Z")
Hey. Love this post. I’m moving more into PvP and am re-watching a ton of old videos as well as changing the way I earn ISK to fund it. The route I’ve settled on is to fly speed/scram/web kiting ships. The reason behind his is that they allow you to control range, they teach you to manually fly and you can got 1 vs more a little easier. Brawling, at least for me, is a ‘do or die’ scenario. It’s hard to evac if you need to. On this basis please see below a list of videos that have provided me with motivation to start gearing up again for PvP https://www.youtube.com/embed/bVJiOgmKa5s?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PLl1eqN-3sYwyYcY9TlipiVF5r3T8y96Zs > **[garmon123456](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbKKhS4xtzzLFvQy7yRjU4g/videos)** > > Share your videos with friends, family, and the world [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/8/3/483cdf8207aebd9522788199883cd6d0e17ef0f2.jpeg "Real Men Fly Frigates. Eve Online Solo Frigate Fights PVP") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF_bHHkhiKs) > **[Friendly Targets](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgm3No5H82LiZhNTyAFyGpg/videos)** > > Share your videos with friends, family, and the world [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/5/9/9590b1d9a5af7c282b1f9c635e96de55ec11cac9.jpeg "Tornado Warning") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT-RoIBpRUw) [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/8/d/48d05a023b42a50efcf9458b28286ac57cab7b7f.jpeg "Commentary 9 - Solo Vagabond") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVJiOgmKa5s) [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/4/6/346b065872498188c00a49a8d85504506234def5.jpeg "PvP Commentary #1 | Wolf") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omYoZAm2iDM) [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/8/c/e8cfbb31ed23f9e7ef4e9c8a6b5d010cf99fb1df.jpeg "Lone Wolf") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PLbjDj2qJo) ---
**Author:** ![Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neo_bladedrifter/32/244232_2.png) [@Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neo_Bladedrifter)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solo-pvp-mentallity-or-the-lack-of-it/302324/23 "2021-04-03T15:25:39Z")
Abyssal Deadspace are more designed for solo. Hope CCP make up their about abyssal proving ground. 1v1 cruiser are already good for solo pvp. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solo-pvp-mentallity-or-the-lack-of-it/302324/25 "2021-04-09T15:41:35Z")
For one who says he is not complaining , you sure do complain alot. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solo-pvp-mentallity-or-the-lack-of-it/302324/26 "2021-07-08T15:41:38Z")
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