# Solution to suicide gankers? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** hauling, high-sec\ **Created:** [May 24, 2022, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932 "2022-05-24T02:12:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/381 "2022-05-29T10:10:04Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > “See what I did there was use the frog as an analogy to show that exposing the inner workings of a joke That’s actually incorrect. The frog is usually dead _before_ one starts the dissection. It typically does not die in the process of the act of dissection itself (unless you’re a sick individual that enjoys inflicting pain upon living creatures with the aim to kill them in the process. That is why the animal is euthanized _before_ hand) It’s not a very accurate analogy. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/382 "2022-05-29T10:17:05Z")
the frog dies with the purpose of educating people about the functioning of its inner parts no one is advocating for vivisection the analogy is not mine anyway but i think its pretty accurate the flavour text is from reddit thats why i put in quote , the purpose of the text is to explain the original quote , doing a extra layer of unneeded explanation to enhance the humour ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/383 "2022-05-29T12:21:07Z")
That is a true statement. Perhaps the joke needs to die first then dissected. Plus I was literal for the sake of being argumentative. I understood the purpose 🙂 Besides my jokes are all dead inside anyway. ---
**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/384 "2022-05-29T13:20:40Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > unless you’re a sick individual that enjoys inflicting pain upon living creatures with the aim to kill them in the process Hmmm… What is this entire post about? Just saying. ---
**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/385 "2022-05-29T13:22:31Z")
The frog’s revenge is that you have to huff some formaldehyde. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/386 "2022-05-29T18:19:46Z")
I have no idea what you are going on about. Please, enlighten me. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/387 "2022-05-29T18:27:48Z")
i think he is talking about the stuff that they put on the jars in labs so the frog body don’t get rotten ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/388 "2022-05-29T19:54:39Z")
I know what formaldehyde is. His general comment is baffling and It lacks context. Does he mean my post(s) or this thread in general? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/389 "2022-05-29T20:11:03Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > His general comment is baffling and It lacks context. Does he mean my post(s) or this thread in general? he means the frog gets revenge by making us feel the strong chemical smell ---
**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/390 "2022-05-29T21:33:45Z")
Did you ignore the rest of that post? I was basing it off of the assumption that the absence of in the moment counterplay was something that they wanted to address, for whatever reason. I state outright I do not think it is necessary. However many have suggested things like a mod to burn the cargo, and I personally find that a much poorer solution given the actual value of Ganking in EVE. Unrelated, but as a Gallente FW pilot I find all this talk of dead frogs highly disturbing. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2022, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/391 "2022-05-29T21:44:46Z")
Ah, so by extension, my satire got its revenge by being so bad it made people groan. 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Guy\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/guy_eriker/32/320831_2.png) [@Guy\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Guy_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/392 "2022-06-02T06:24:14Z")
Ever had the “Eve Shakes”? You know that feeling when your gut drops and you know your 2.3B Baby is GONNA DIE? It sucks right? So then… You man the ■■■■ up and start running around with a bunch of crazy Russian pirates doing nothing, but PVP until your eyes bleed. This goes on for months. At some point back in Empire space running missions or whatever you do, someone jumps you and it all happens again. Stomach drops, heart skips, but then you align, wait a few secs and hit your stab. You do it right and end up surviving. Or if in a combat vessel you play your ship and kick their ass. Suddenly all that ■■■■ made for a hell of a rush, but you die less. This is what keeps me playing Eve, despite CCP’s ■■■■ it is the only place I know where where you can play a space MMO where dying sucks so ■■■■■■■ bad that even a close call gives you the jitters… I live for that ■■■■ man. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/393 "2022-06-02T06:51:18Z")
> [@Guy\_Eriker](#): > > You man the ■■■■ up and start running around with a bunch of crazy Russian pirates doing nothing, but PVP solid advice 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/394 "2022-06-02T11:39:38Z")
> [@Guy\_Eriker](#): > > At some point back in Empire space running missions or whatever you do, someone jumps you and it all happens again. Stomach drops, heart skips, but then you align, wait a few secs and hit your stab. You do it right and end up surviving. Or if in a combat vessel you play your ship and kick their ass. This never happens. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/395 "2022-06-02T12:15:34Z")
> [@Guy\_Eriker](#): > > Ever had the “Eve Shakes”? Quite often actually! I remember this one time this guy was being very vocal in local (low sec system) calling me all sorts of names and the usual emotional sliming that happens when self absorbed whiny carebears lose a ship because I had blown up his ship earlier. Anyway I found him in an Atron in a belt hunting low sec rats so I strapped on my boots and engaged him in a venture! It was a great fight. By the time he managed to get himself together, target me, and fire I was well into his hull. It came down to wire, each of us hanging on by that structure thread. But I was pulse heating my guns, and landed thar finishing blow. It was one of those rare good fights. I gave him the GF in local. He gave me the typical “get bent” response. ---
**Author:** ![Guy\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/guy_eriker/32/320831_2.png) [@Guy\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Guy_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/396 "2022-06-02T15:43:22Z")
I am being serious when I ask this, but you really never survive? I slip gate camps and weasel out just as I’m being locked almost daily. We have the MWD and MJD trick, stabs (for haulers and such). You have vessels for travel that are small, but immune to bubbles and such. Ever tried to pin down an advanced mining frigate? I forget what they are called, but if you can get into a tech 2 version of a venture you have cloaks AND warp core resistance. And again depending on what I am in I will likely choose to fight. Suicide ganking sucks, but the risks can be mitigated a lot if your careful. I swear I’m not trying to be braggy or a dick, but if you really never live I thought maybe you needed some tips on how too. Fly Safe my friend ---
**Author:** ![Guy\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/guy_eriker/32/320831_2.png) [@Guy\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Guy_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/397 "2022-06-02T15:48:41Z")
Good fights are rare, but damn sure fun. Real life is a lot like that. People aren’t so fast to engage if they might actually loss something dear. So when you DO get into it… You guys know what I mean. When you can feel you pulse without taking it, the blood rushing through your ears. Ha ha, I suppose that’s the Irish half of me talkin, but I do love me a good cathartic brawl now an again. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/398 "2022-06-02T16:02:05Z")
I’m not talking about myself, but generally. ---
**Author:** ![Guy\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/guy_eriker/32/320831_2.png) [@Guy\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Guy_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/399 "2022-06-02T16:16:00Z")
Ah, good to know. I remember my days starting out. I learned everything the hardest way. I’m 40 now and I have learned that the wise learn from history and fools learn from experience. In other words I started to read in order to learn from other people’s “experience”. I just thought you may have been new or something, there is probably something here that tells how old Characters are, but I only recently starting using the forum, after playing for about a decade. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/400 "2022-06-02T16:25:12Z")
> [@Guy\_Eriker](#): > > I just thought you may have been new or something Hah, no. If I was new today I’d only be Alpha, TBH. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932.md?page=19) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932.md?page=21)