# Solution to suicide gankers? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** hauling, high-sec\ **Created:** [May 24, 2022, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932 "2022-05-24T02:12:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altesse_tsukaya/32/318147_2.png) [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altesse_Tsukaya)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/81 "2022-05-24T13:59:57Z")
Why are you even talking about chess and solitaire Eve is far more than just one type of game, the combat part is just one side but pvp takes so much place that you cannot do anything without it forcing itself. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/82 "2022-05-24T14:00:45Z")
Exactly that’s what people are explaining to you that PvP is the core of it, it is intentional. ---
**Author:** ![Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altesse_tsukaya/32/318147_2.png) [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altesse_Tsukaya)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/83 "2022-05-24T14:01:29Z")
‘People’ = you? And what i am saying is it actively hurts the game more than anything else, it should be rebalanced ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mohammad_mediouni_sh_rifi/32/301858_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mohammad_Mediouni_Sh_rifi)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/84 "2022-05-24T14:01:42Z")
> [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](#): > > Why are you even talking about chess and solitaire Because you know people get ganked in Chess and Solitaire, everybody knows that. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/85 "2022-05-24T14:02:16Z")
People in this thread? It is up to the devs to determine if it hurts the game and if they care. ---
**Author:** ![Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altesse_tsukaya/32/318147_2.png) [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altesse_Tsukaya)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/86 "2022-05-24T14:03:30Z")
hint: they dont care, they just squeeze whatever’s left before the game crashes ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/87 "2022-05-24T14:05:11Z")
Maybe, maybe not, will see. Doesn’t change the fact what the game is inteded to be by the devs though. 🙂 By the way you might get more on this subject in this thread among others to see many of the debates and counterpoints presented in the past and present: > [@Nerf Ganking Megathread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004): > > Okay. Someone proposes a nerf to suicide ganking (or getting rid of it entirely) about twice a month. Rather than keep saying the same things over and over again, I figured I’d just create a catch all thread. > > > **Myth: Suicide ganking is unbalanced in favor of the gankers.** > > > > False. It is unbalanced, but actually in favor of prey. In fact, game mechanics stack the deck so heavily against suicide ganking, that sustainable ganking is entirely dependent on prey making at least one mistake, if not mor… ---
**Author:** ![Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altesse_tsukaya/32/318147_2.png) [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altesse_Tsukaya)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/88 "2022-05-24T14:05:14Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > People in this thread? who, you are almost the only one defending your point so far, except one or two comment here and there ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/89 "2022-05-24T14:05:47Z")
Check the thread I’ve linked. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altesse_tsukaya/32/318147_2.png) [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altesse_Tsukaya)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/90 "2022-05-24T14:05:50Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > By the way you might get more on this subject in this thread among others to see many of the debates and counterpoints presented in the past and present: this thread is nothing but pro-gank propaganda ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/91 "2022-05-24T14:06:43Z")
I guess in your opinion they use mind control rays too. 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altesse_tsukaya/32/318147_2.png) [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altesse_Tsukaya)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/92 "2022-05-24T14:07:13Z")
no 5 chars minimum ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/93 "2022-05-24T14:09:33Z")
@Shipwreck_Jones is typing a message. inb4 the flood gates. 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/94 "2022-05-24T14:09:57Z")
Hi Cilla - wasn’t it? O hell; Hi Altesse! I hope your EVE journey is going well! About your _other_ journey - if some scallywag steals your car, will you go to pieces over it? I suppose you might. You might also consider whether any act of commission or omission on your part might have contributed to the theft. You might also regret not signing with that _other_ insurance company; so many things to think about! What you _will_ do, however, is get back to your normal routine as quickly as possible. You will not - I hope - spend days, months…raging and ranting in public about the loss of something which can be replaced. You might, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altesse_tsukaya/32/318147_2.png) [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altesse_Tsukaya)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/95 "2022-05-24T14:10:39Z")
what? come back when you have something to say ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/96 "2022-05-24T14:18:28Z")
> [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](#): > > who, you are almost the only one defending your point so far, except one or two comment here and there Yeah, this is an ongoing discussion (that probably dates back to beta). However, even though the forums will tell people that there are 80k different nerf-ganking threads when they go to create another one, that doesn’t stop them from hitting post and reseting the conversation back to zero once again. So, do not assume that there aren’t a mountain of people who come down on the other side of this debate. Some of us just get tired of re-litigating the same points over and over again. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/97 "2022-05-24T14:20:37Z")
> [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](#): > > > [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > > > If you can’t deal with loss you will struggle in EVE and in Life > > ah yes because when i take my car and go to work i always have to go through a gate camp A car thief could be regarded as a ganker. Stealthy, skilled in his work, opportunist or pre-planner. Could he be a gate-camper too? Why yes, if you leave your car parked unsafely and expect to find it there, undamaged, on your return 8 hours later. > [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](#): > > come back when you have something to say You used an example to try to discredit my notion that dealing with loss is no different in or out of EVE. I stand by that, Altesse. ---
**Author:** ![Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altesse_tsukaya/32/318147_2.png) [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altesse_Tsukaya)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/98 "2022-05-24T14:21:19Z")
My car doesnt get stolen every day thank you for your concerns Most people dont play games to risk stuff but to achieve something or to have fun, gankers are a nuisance in both cases, only exception is for like-minded people that might become gankers, which is a vast minority ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/99 "2022-05-24T14:22:56Z")
Just curious: Whose alt you assume this guy is? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/100 "2022-05-24T14:32:40Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Whose alt you assume this guy is? I got this wrong, Uriel and all. Apology further down! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932.md?page=6)