# Solution to suicide gankers? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** hauling, high-sec\ **Created:** [May 24, 2022, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932 "2022-05-24T02:12:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mohammad_mediouni_sh_rifi/32/301858_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mohammad_Mediouni_Sh_rifi)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/121 "2022-05-24T16:27:39Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > You misinterpret what I say if you think I defend CCP Or maybe you’re the one not using the correct words in order to be understood 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/122 "2022-05-24T16:28:40Z")
You already submitted your surrender. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mohammad_mediouni_sh_rifi/32/301858_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mohammad_Mediouni_Sh_rifi)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/123 "2022-05-24T16:30:07Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > You already submitted your surrender I didn’t, I wrote a post while watching your ship sink. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/124 "2022-05-24T16:31:08Z")
Ignoring the fact won’t make it go away. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mohammad_mediouni_sh_rifi/32/301858_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mohammad_Mediouni_Sh_rifi)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/125 "2022-05-24T16:31:58Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Ignoring the fact won’t make it go away I do not ignore the fact that you lost and you sank to the bottom of the Marina Trench. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/126 "2022-05-24T16:33:04Z")
Unfortunately can’t hear you through the announcement of your surrender despite it happened quite some time ago it is still filling the thread. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mohammad_mediouni_sh_rifi/32/301858_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mohammad_Mediouni_Sh_rifi)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/127 "2022-05-24T16:35:11Z")
Just because you wish it doesn’t make it so. You know you sank and now you can’t hear me because you’re 6km under water. How’s the pressure? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/128 "2022-05-24T16:37:32Z")
Glad to see you admit you have nothing to add to the subject of the discussion as you lost the argument. I accept your further admission of defeat. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mohammad_mediouni_sh_rifi/32/301858_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mohammad_Mediouni_Sh_rifi)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/129 "2022-05-24T16:38:27Z")
Yes, it is quite a relief to know that a veteran can admit defeat. I’m proud of you. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/130 "2022-05-24T16:40:36Z")
Don’t be jealous, it makes you look even worse. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/131 "2022-05-24T16:42:10Z")
a freighter is running for some billions ,have a long training time , not a new player ship just tank it and transport 500 milion max in dangerous routes back them it used to work not an expert edit: btw they are not the propper ship to transport low volume high value cargo ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mohammad_mediouni_sh_rifi/32/301858_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Mediouni\_Sh\_rifi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mohammad_Mediouni_Sh_rifi)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/132 "2022-05-24T16:42:57Z")
Whattya mean?? I look good! ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/133 "2022-05-24T16:48:31Z")
At least in his OP he mentioned haulers in general though and sometimes rookies have the bright idea of putting all their wealth in a cargo expander tanked Iteron V or Nereus and autopilot to Jita to sell their spare items or just move to a new home. But then again try not putting all your eggs in one basked and move through Uedama or some such nonsense. Some people just ask for it really. 😅 Hopefully they will not make the same mistake again. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/134 "2022-05-24T16:49:25Z")
ya , tech 1 haulers can be insta shot by ganknados i was under the impression he was talking about freighters because he mentioned a invincible button ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/135 "2022-05-24T17:15:02Z")
@wolfstallion Ganking is what makes hauling interesting. Not only the danger that separates good haulers from bad, but also the differences between markets. The reason some items are up at a different price in one market compared to another is because we can’t just auto-pilot safely between markets. And that’s one of the most interesting things about this game. The time when Niarja fell and ‘cut hi-sec in half’ was one of the most awesome and memorable moments in eve. Ganking is possibly the best part of eve. And I say that as someone who mostly mines and hauls, and as someone that has some big ganked losses. P.S. You should pay attention to the arguments used by those that dislike ganking. Band wagon fallacies, false equivalents, ‘think of the children’… There’s a good reason they can’t argue honestly. And no, they don’t give a damn about new players or the growth of eve. There has never been any evidence that ganking hurts new player retention, on the contrary, the data suggested ganked players stick around longer. And the game was more popular when ganking was cheaper and easier. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/136 "2022-05-24T17:18:19Z")
Highsec hauling look up Redfrog. Saves both time and worry. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/137 "2022-05-24T17:34:27Z")
> [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](#): > > I do appreciate a challenge when its an actual challenge, not getting rekt in a fight i never had a chance to win to begin with. The idea of “fair fights in New Eden” is a myth, much like unicorns in real life. Once you embrace that, adopt that mentality, and reflect that in your ship fittings, piloting skills, and risk assessments then it will help you survive the cutthroat universe. Everyone is out to kill you in the most unfair way possible. Even people with blue standings to you. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/138 "2022-05-24T17:55:17Z")
If you want complete safety hauling it comes at a premium and that premium is setting up a contract with a reward and collateral. In Eve you pay for safety you don’t just get it for free. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/139 "2022-05-24T18:10:57Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > Everyone is out to kill you in the most unfair way possible. Even people with blue standings to you. awoxers are the scum of the earth its the only behavior i see as a taboo in eve i always say you cannot expect to play a game for 10++ years and go stabbing your friends in the back all the time one day no one will care to have any business with you ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/140 "2022-05-24T18:12:27Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > no one will care to have any business with you That’s when you create an alt or get to know some people outside of EVE and recruit them to your EVE corp… just to backstab them too in a couple of years later. 🤭 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932.md?page=8)