# Solution to suicide gankers? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** hauling, high-sec\ **Created:** [May 24, 2022, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932 "2022-05-24T02:12:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Ashstyx\_s\_alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashstyx_s_alt/32/305889_2.png) [@Ashstyx\_s\_alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashstyx_s_alt)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/161 "2022-05-25T09:35:45Z")
you wouldn’t have time to press the button, or we would force you to press the button and just gank you on the other side of the gate when you think you are safe again, buttons like these have a cool down in game so they cant be spammed, so in the end you will still die. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/162 "2022-05-25T14:56:38Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > Cilla was, I think, @Altara_Zemara. Cilla came first, but Altara is now the main account…having hugely more skill points and engaging in combat with increasing frequency. ---
**Author:** ![Adm\_Malkaviano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adm_malkaviano/32/496610_2.png) [@Adm\_Malkaviano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adm_Malkaviano)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/163 "2022-05-25T17:54:16Z")
I like how people’s memory is soooo short. Solution to what? CCP did it by themselves boosting artillery/hybrid and reducing shield/armor resists in one deploy. It’s the game design, it’s working as intended. FFS stop whining so much, at least troll a little for the fun aspect of it. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/164 "2022-05-25T23:27:19Z")
> [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](#): > > You mean the gankers? Gankers are lazy and stupid and reap the benefit of others with no effort, i think you mixed your stuff. This same statement could be said about the miner. “_Miners_ are lazy and stupid and reap the benefit of others with no effort” ---
**Author:** ![Ezra\_Pouind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ezra_pouind/32/321495_2.png) [@Ezra\_Pouind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ezra_Pouind)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/165 "2022-05-26T15:13:59Z")
Assuming that the people here complaining about highsec gankers are serious, the best thing to do to avoid gankers is understand the perspective and play style of gankers to know what annoys them, and what blocks them. I recommend watching MacGybo’s youtube channel. I have learned tons about ganking game play from watching his channel. The “solution” to being ganked is not an “I win” invulnerability button, but understanding how ganker’s play, and how to avoid them, and make what makes you less of a target. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/166 "2022-05-26T15:51:10Z")
> [@Ezra\_Pouind](#): > > The “solution” to being ganked is not an “I win” invulnerability button, but understanding how ganker’s play, and how to avoid them, and make what makes you less of a target. But, but, that takes time effort and work. Why should I have to increase my knowledge base for a game that I play for entertainment purposes. I shouldn’t have to put in any effort, and I shouldn’t have to pay attention to the screen when mining or hauling. I should be able to turn the game on in the background, ignore it while I watch Netflix and expect it to reward me. So, I disagree. What we need are account settings that when aggressed in high sec, activates an invulnerability field that makes it impossible for gankers to ruin my inattentive gameplay style. Hell, I’d even pay CCP $11.99/month to have that setting unlocked. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/167 "2022-05-26T17:27:06Z")
> [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](#): > > But as it is right now the game might as well not be advertised at all. You end the tutorial and career agents with 10M isk in bank and a few ships then the grind starts, with no direction and the risk of getting ganked over nothing. You can barely make a few thousand isk after the tutorial part so the game feels grindy right away. Then if you manage to go through that you have days of skill training to fly basic ships, and grind and more grind to buy it. Then you risk losing it all to the first ganker you see. I’ve been in the game 8 months in 3 toons and in that time I have been ganked _once_…6 weeks into the game. And that was my own fault for not paying attention. These days I travel all over the place, highsec, lowsec, and nullsec, mine in various systems I consider safe, attack flashy people, take part in corporation fleets, and have billions of ISK. I have over 100 ships in several dozen systems, and regularly pass gankers at gates and wave to them. As for skills, this toon is Level V on many. It is easy to ‘get somewhere’ in Eve…but I think a lot of people are afraid to and blame the game rather than stepping out and taking risk. You are playing the game wrong if you are cowering away from gankers and seeing them as some all-pervading threat. Just add them to bad standing so you can spot them in Local, and if you have some particularly important stuff to transport send a scout in advance ( in a shuttle for example ). In fact it pays to do lots of scouting trips all over the place anyway…so you familiarise yourself with different systems and who is likely to be there. None of which guarantees you won’t ever get ganked…but you’ll see them in the rear view mirror more often than not. The idea that one almost _inevitably_ ends up poor and huddled in the corner of some station gibbering about the ganker threat is just nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/168 "2022-05-26T17:42:12Z")
> [@Ezra\_Pouind](#): > > understanding how ganker’s play Indeed. Whilst some gank for lolz…groups like Safety operate on a cost/benefits basis. They are unlikely to waste a dozen Catalysts on some 5m ISK destroyer. Their targets are mainly Retrievers or haulers with expensive cargo. I usually sail right past them in my high EHP Gnosis…even when carrying cargo ( the ship is actually good for hauling small expensive stuff ), knowing that even in 0.5 Uedama it would take 7 or 8 of them to defeat me…and of course my scout will have checked in advance whether there _are_ 7 or 8 of them there. If there are then I just park at Sivala and log in another toon that can go mining for a bit. That is how to avoid being ganked. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/169 "2022-05-26T20:11:48Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Safety operate on a cost/benefits basis. I somehow find this comment not true, EG; “whenever you have thoughts of going turncoat on us lol i’d prefer to keep you in the friend catagory rather then the try to make your gameplay so miserable that you uninstall catagory lol” ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/170 "2022-05-26T20:12:47Z")
Thread #10,482,912 whining about gankers. /yawn ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/171 "2022-05-26T21:37:15Z")
Mean gankers. Somebody should round them up and give them a slap on the wrist and tell then how awful they are for blowing up pixilated spaceships in a spaceship oriented game centered around pvp mechanics. Very naughty people. CCP, you really should get on that. ---
**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Cohenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_cohenberg/32/423311_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Cohenberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Cohenberg)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/172 "2022-05-26T22:17:56Z")
> [@wolfstallion](#): > > what if there was a hauler that had the invincibility module I could ask a hauler for his ship and he would give it to me and then people would complain that conversations are broken and CCP should nerf typing ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/173 "2022-05-26T22:18:49Z")
Worth a read: [http://www.tnellen.com/westside/harrison.pdf](http://www.tnellen.com/westside/harrison.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/174 "2022-05-26T22:36:05Z")
Stop giving them ideas (even sarcastically), based on their recent track record they might actually do it. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/175 "2022-05-26T22:46:48Z")
I’m very concerned that CCP hasn’t been bothered to contact local and international police investigative services to track these horrible people down. These people should be held accountable for all the undo stress and heartache they cause in a completely optional and elective activity. ---
**Author:** ![Sargon\_Of\_Amerish](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sargon_of_amerish/32/381433_2.png) [@Sargon\_Of\_Amerish](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sargon_Of_Amerish)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/176 "2022-05-26T23:07:25Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > EG; > “whenever you have thoughts of going turncoat on us lol i’d prefer to keep you in the friend category rather then the try to make your gameplay so miserable that you uninstall category lol” Unsure what number of conclusions you were attempting to extract from that context-less excerpt, but while you figure all that out I’d be happy to provide such context, and well, given the level of tantrum you appear to be having about us of late makes your response all the more hilarious.. :parrot: 💁‍♂️ :sassyparrot: ![2022.05.26.22.27.14](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/2/2/b22973a444421703d74acdc8affe34e8f1b6a8f1.png) ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/177 "2022-05-27T03:53:48Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > but I think a lot of people are afraid to and blame the game rather than stepping out and taking risk. They don’t blame the _game_ on their ineptness. They blame other players for it, and expect CCP to come in and coddle them and pander to their self importance and entitlement mentality. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Gloveless\_Proctologist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_gloveless_proctologist/32/321871_2.png) [@The\_Gloveless\_Proctologist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Gloveless_Proctologist)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/178 "2022-05-27T04:58:31Z")
Pretty sure ganking is a myth. ---
**Author:** ![Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altesse_tsukaya/32/318147_2.png) [@Altesse\_Tsukaya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altesse_Tsukaya)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/179 "2022-05-27T05:51:10Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > self importance and entitlement mentality. The only ‘entitled’ persons i encountered in the game are gankers. And they always seem to think their gameplay and enjoyment is more important than anyone elses. So shut it with those dumb arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932/180 "2022-05-27T05:57:17Z")
They could even make a plug-in big red button so you can just smash down on it say for £19.00 from the eve store. With a long cable you don’t even need to get up from watching Netflix [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-suicide-gankers/363932.md?page=10)