# Solution to the Empire ganking trend **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [April 8, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565 "2018-04-08T16:54:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/101 "2018-04-21T09:04:22Z")
Watch out! CCP might ban you for something they refuse to clarify and don’t understand!! ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/102 "2018-04-21T15:08:35Z")
You’re full of it, CCP are on record as saying the exact opposite with regards to manipulating Concord within the normal parameters that govern their actions. > GM Lelouch > > > Hello all, > > > > In order to clear up our current stance concerning this mechanic, I’m going to attach the ticket response I sent to Benny Ohu: > > > > We do not consider intentionally spawning CONCORD using disposable ships an exploit at this time. This is, like all policies, subject to change in the future if deemed necessary for some reason, but we have no current plans to make any changes to this stance. > > > > To put our stance quite clearly, we currently make no distinction between these two scenarios: > > > > a. Suicide gank. CONCORD is spawned because Player A attacks Player B without the rights to do so. > > b. Defensive spawning. CONCORD is spawned because Player A’s alt character attacks Player A without the rights to do so. > > > > My best guess would be that the confusion stems from different rules having been broken. There are two exploits of sorts which I can think of which could have led to warnings being placed in a scenario similar to “b” above. > **[EVE Search - Has suicide ganking become a problem? Empty freighters being...](https://eve-search.com/thread/352595-1/page/62#1857)** > > The alternative guide to the EVE-Online forums. Mirrors and enables advanced search options to browse the EVE-Online forums. Furthermore as per a post in the [NRDS Compliant Anti-Gank Permit - #62 by Lawrence\_Lawton](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nrds-compliant-anti-gank-permit/65841/62) thread. > [@NRDS Compliant Anti-Gank Permit](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nrds-compliant-anti-gank-permit/65841/62): > > I received a response from Senior GM Vertikal which I will paraphrase: > > “GM Lelouch’s statement still reflects current policy. Pulling CONCORD with disposable ships is considered acceptable and does not count as delaying CONCORD. Good job community for deducing this on your own.” TL;DR you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, nor can you back up your claims. Now don this [dunce hat](https://i.imgur.com/8tPYfTk.jpg) and go sit on the naughty step to consider the consequences of your ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/104 "2018-04-21T18:12:01Z")
Get back under your bridge troll, there’s some goats headed your way. ---
**Author:** ![Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vipsan_agrippa/32/18391_2.png) [@Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vipsan_Agrippa)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/105 "2018-04-21T18:16:25Z")
That’s it Jonah, breath slowly… Calm yet dear? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/106 "2018-04-21T18:21:01Z")
I’m English, and I have a cup of tea It doesn’t get much calmer old chap. ---
**Author:** ![Chaos\_Ellec0n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chaos_ellec0n/32/347804_2.png) [@Chaos\_Ellec0n](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chaos_Ellec0n)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/107 "2018-04-21T18:24:27Z")
The war dec mechanic is there for a reason, but how many haulers dodge it by staying in an npc Corp? ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/108 "2018-04-21T19:11:15Z")
Not sure… Check CODE.s killboard 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ildrara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ildrara/32/56659_2.png) [@Ildrara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ildrara)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/109 "2018-04-22T08:51:50Z")
Tldr I already acknowledged that. Thanks for trying I guess. Perhaps you should read my response to Chainsaw. ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/110 "2018-04-22T09:29:26Z")
🐐 (5 characters) ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/113 "2018-04-22T13:29:02Z")
Removed a few posts for being inappropriate and attacking in nature. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/114 "2018-04-22T14:44:12Z")
I wonder whose posts it was 🤔 lol ---
**Author:** ![Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vipsan_agrippa/32/18391_2.png) [@Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vipsan_Agrippa)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/115 "2018-04-22T15:01:57Z")
> [@Faylee\_Freir](#): > > 🐐 > > (5 characters) Singular is four characters, yes you have outed yourself as a silly goat. ---
**Author:** ![Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vipsan_agrippa/32/18391_2.png) [@Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vipsan_Agrippa)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/116 "2018-04-22T15:04:37Z")
Calm Down Ganker Flunky. Where did the harmless post touch you? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/117 "2018-04-22T15:22:00Z")
oh wait… you think that I’m one of the people who flagged your post as offensive… [You’re adorable.](https://i.imgur.com/lHL4Xy0.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vipsan_agrippa/32/18391_2.png) [@Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vipsan_Agrippa)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/118 "2018-04-22T15:24:06Z")
No Dom n Dommer has form in this area. But thx for calling me adorable, you are too kind. So that’s your new tactic - making me blush??? ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/119 "2018-04-22T17:03:00Z")
your keyboard warrior skills are rusty it seems, as is your memory… don’t you remember why you were put down last time? ---
**Author:** ![Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vipsan_agrippa/32/18391_2.png) [@Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vipsan_Agrippa)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/120 "2018-04-22T17:37:17Z")
When you start flagging your old buds at Code dumping on you, like loyal #cough# I mean Trump the king. I think you have probs. I still remember Jimmy dumping on you in the old forums, remember what he said? Time you found better company eh?! ---
**Author:** ![Imustbecomfused](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imustbecomfused/32/140896_2.png) [@Imustbecomfused](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imustbecomfused)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/121 "2018-04-22T22:28:57Z")
dont pay him isk to teach you. lol wtf man… the advice is solid. invest in a cyno toon for a JF and keep them both out of corp etc… npc corp is good. Also, Id advise on learning to minimize risk and start excelling on logistics with no loss… think, what is the safest system in Eve Online? Any system with 0 local… ---
**Author:** ![Imustbecomfused](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imustbecomfused/32/140896_2.png) [@Imustbecomfused](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imustbecomfused)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/122 "2018-04-22T22:35:53Z")
As mentioned before, JFs are the key to logistics in a relatively covert manner. If you have to haul in high sec, try using a webbing escort, like a huggin or rapier, and warp along with the freighter, webbing him instantly off each gate. You will have to wait the 60 to jump with the webber but can make each jump less than 2 min which greatly improves time from start to finish. Though this takes a second account or a TRUSTED friend in the same corp as the hauler itself, and allow friendly fire in corp details. But I do believe if you are being in fact targeted, there may be nothing you can do if you undock with that freighter full of goods… and use the same systems jumping assets gate to gate. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Norros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_norros/32/249084_2.png) [@ISD\_Norros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Norros)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solution-to-the-empire-ganking-trend/68565/123 "2018-04-24T14:29:15Z")
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