# Solutions for fixing suicide ganking

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [May 26, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240 "2020-05-26T18:38:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Luk\_Starwata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luk_starwata/32/208444_2.png) [@Luk\_Starwata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luk_Starwata)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/21 "2020-05-26T19:12:56Z")

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The joke is on you, you’re making this thread more relevant with every second you spend on it and every irrelevant meme post.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/22 "2020-05-26T19:14:58Z")

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@ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode You have been summoned, sir. Please close this useless, whining, troll thread…

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**Author:** ![Luk\_Starwata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luk_starwata/32/208444_2.png) [@Luk\_Starwata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luk_Starwata)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/23 "2020-05-26T19:15:37Z")

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It is and you have yet to refute it being so.

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**Author:** ![James\_Baboli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_baboli/32/408702_2.png) [@James\_Baboli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Baboli)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/24 "2020-05-26T19:17:23Z")

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Get off the WARP IN THEN.

Then they need to burn to you, and you can lock them up, so when they go flashy, you kill them.

Also, any kind of prop mod on a mach will kite standard gank boats

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**Author:** ![Luk\_Starwata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luk_starwata/32/208444_2.png) [@Luk\_Starwata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luk_Starwata)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/25 "2020-05-26T19:17:59Z")

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1. You haven’t refuted it being as stated.
2. I’m not ashamed, I’m proud to walk tall and stand up to you bullies.
3. You should be ashamed of yourself for defending it.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/26 "2020-05-26T19:19:08Z")

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@ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode please drop the drinks and save us from this mess

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**Author:** ![Luk\_Starwata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luk_starwata/32/208444_2.png) [@Luk\_Starwata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luk_Starwata)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/27 "2020-05-26T19:21:22Z")

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1. You have every opportunity to do something other than make logical fallacies here. Not a single poster has yet to refute my OP points, yet.
2. You’re strawmanning my OP. i said it was the gaming version of all that and bad sportsmanship at the very least.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/28 "2020-05-26T19:22:22Z")

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> [@Luk\_Starwata](#):
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> and you have yet to refute it being so.

How sheltered is your life that you’re comfortable comparing losing a cheap ship to a gank to literal rape?

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/29 "2020-05-26T19:22:49Z")

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> [@Luk\_Starwata](#):
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> You haven’t refuted it being as stated.

I’m not going to engage in a serious conversation in a thread that’s going to get shut down the second ISD gets a whiff of it.

> [@Luk\_Starwata](#):
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> I’m not ashamed, I’m proud to walk tall and stand up to you bullies.

You’re making a mockery out of gang rape, school shootings, and terrorism - treating them as if they’re jokes or akin to a PVP game mechanic. Who’s the bully here?

> [@Luk\_Starwata](#):
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> You should be ashamed of yourself for defending it.

I have not stated my position on suicide ganking. Do not make assumptions.

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**Author:** ![Luk\_Starwata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luk_starwata/32/208444_2.png) [@Luk\_Starwata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luk_Starwata)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/30 "2020-05-26T19:23:16Z")

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I respect this reply as advice for the current situation, but it dosent address the bad sportsmanship of suicide ganking and it still doesnt work all the time.

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**Author:** ![James\_Baboli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_baboli/32/408702_2.png) [@James\_Baboli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Baboli)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/31 "2020-05-26T19:27:07Z")

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It’s not a game about sportsmanship. It’s also working exactly as intended, and I prefer it this way, despite being the hunted more often than the hunter.

You are literally killing people by the thousands in a standard level 4.

Also, I guaran-gorram-tee you that with the addition of insta-undocks, that will totally prevent standard ganks.

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**Author:** ![Kyra\_Lee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kyra_lee/32/250080_2.png) [@Kyra\_Lee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kyra_Lee)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/32 "2020-05-26T19:29:49Z")

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> [@Luk\_Starwata](#):
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> Making a new character after every trolling attempt isn’t profitable or easy, or practical so your wrong.

Really? Because we have threads on these very forums saying that the infinite alpha pilot creation is the problem in suicide ganking.

> [@Alpha clone suicide ganking need to stop!](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/alpha-clone-suicide-ganking-need-to-stop/223191):
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> It’s enough. Suicide one of the beauty of EVE life but not when you completely ignore the consequences. Ppl dont even care about SS loss, CONCORD punishment or whatever. You just create newacc and repeat. And simpliest way to prevent that abuse is… Lock safety switch for Alphas!!! If you’re in Hi-sec - it’s always green. If you wanna some illegal action - then go to low/null.

It is free to make a new account, it is free to make an alpha character, its free to skill said character up to be useful in ganking. The moment you are finished skilling a character up you just make a new one on that account and start skilling it. You can have 3 gank characters in a single account completely for free.  
None of them will have any consequences. The only difficulty is in keeping all of those characters and accounts organized.

Wow I type to slow it seems. I think your answer has been delivered in the thread already…

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**Author:** ![Jerry\_Falcone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerry_falcone/32/167073_2.png) [@Jerry\_Falcone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerry_Falcone)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/33 "2020-05-26T19:29:50Z")

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ok, you made your point. Suicide ganking, is bad, you deleted the game. What you should have done is biomassed yourself before you deleted it.

This game allows all kinds stuff that would normally be illegal or immoral in real life. Aside from harrassment, or abuse or scamming in character trading, EVE is a ruthless game. Not one for someone with your weak mind that you have to compare it to real life tragedies. i really hope this topic gets locked and removed so no other person has to look at this … this… waste of a topic.

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**Author:** ![Luk\_Starwata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luk_starwata/32/208444_2.png) [@Luk\_Starwata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luk_Starwata)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/34 "2020-05-26T19:32:25Z")

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1. If my free speech gets purged I’m sure I won’t be back and when they see my months of subs they will not want to burn the bridge so I’m betting you’re wrong about that.
2. No, i stated it’s the gaming opportunity for that type of bad behavior to come out of the more timid versions of the broken type of people who commit that stuff IRL. Suicide ganking is making all the mockery here.
3. That’s just doubt. I’m not giving you the benefit of the doubt here. You’re being too defensive for that.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/35 "2020-05-26T19:33:02Z")

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> [@Luk\_Starwata](#):
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> when they see my months of subs they will not want to burn the bridge

![Data Laughing](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/c/dcdeabee6f9f8971b1abaf04599b9fa8a963cbc8.gif)

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**Author:** ![Jerry\_Falcone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerry_falcone/32/167073_2.png) [@Jerry\_Falcone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerry_Falcone)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/36 "2020-05-26T19:34:03Z")

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@ISD_Buldath apparently @ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode is on a drink vacation it seems… can you please close this… You’ll be my favorite ISD if you do.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/37 "2020-05-26T19:34:55Z")

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> [@Luk\_Starwata](#):
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> my free speech gets purged

You’re on the forums of a private video game company located in Iceland. What is this “free speech” you’re talking about?

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**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/38 "2020-05-26T19:37:54Z")

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> [@Luk\_Starwata](#):
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> Bro I cancelled my subscription and deleted the app and there were no tears. I went back to my other hundred steam games i’ve been neglecting. I just want to use this fine venue to express my concern for the voiceless.

Best thing for you.  
You must of really loved that ship to compare it to gangrape. Do you feel that violated ?

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**Author:** ![Luk\_Starwata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luk_starwata/32/208444_2.png) [@Luk\_Starwata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luk_Starwata)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/39 "2020-05-26T19:38:26Z")

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I respect the good points in this reply however in the current situation there is no need to even do any of that because suicide ganking is encouraged and profitable.  
I’m saying don’t encourage it and make it cost a lot to even do it.

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**Author:** ![Luk\_Starwata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luk_starwata/32/208444_2.png) [@Luk\_Starwata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luk_Starwata)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/solutions-for-fixing-suicide-ganking/244240/40 "2020-05-26T19:41:32Z")

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I assume you want me to feel violated and you therefore proved the claim in my OP. Next…

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