# Some thoughts on dealing with hi-sec Triglavian recons squads

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**Category:** Mining & Extraction\
**Created:** [August 17, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447 "2019-08-17T17:59:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Manweru\_Cemenotar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/manweru_cemenotar/32/230368_2.png) [@Manweru\_Cemenotar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Manweru_Cemenotar)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/123 "2019-11-18T13:50:36Z")

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I dunno what “DeepScan” You mean but yeah if you ignore overview advises won’t help much… but then it’s not like you could do much in EvE when ignoring overview…

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**Author:** ![Derath\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derath_ellecon/32/289725_2.png) [@Derath\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derath_Ellecon)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/124 "2019-11-18T14:10:42Z")

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I’m guessing he means d-scan (which is directional not deep).

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**Author:** ![Manweru\_Cemenotar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/manweru_cemenotar/32/230368_2.png) [@Manweru\_Cemenotar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Manweru_Cemenotar)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/125 "2019-11-18T14:50:04Z")

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Well if he did, he’s kind of being silly because you can completely deal with all hi-sec non-pvp content and most of hi-sec pvp without relying on D-scan… especially when mining in high sec if you react to triglavians when they warp in to the grid (pop up on the overview tab) you should be able to at least warp out unharmed. And in case of mining in places where they don’t spawn at all - well no need to monitor dscan either.

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**Author:** ![Stephan\_X\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stephan_x_janau/32/272899_2.png) [@Stephan\_X\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stephan_X_Janau)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/126 "2019-11-30T21:04:16Z")

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This is great stuff. Game content that forces you to actively play, make decisions and compromises, rather than login , set it and forget it then go watch netflix. brings the game to life. Alot of corps out there that cannot be war decced. gotta give em something to worry about.

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**Author:** ![Eshl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eshl/32/172855_2.png) [@Eshl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eshl)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/127 "2019-12-06T14:44:39Z")

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that would be most excellent. every high sec ice system is plagued by mulitibox miners with not a care in the universe. i’ve been away for awhile and having come back i now see freighters in the ice field as well!! that’s a bit much imo. a little trig lovin would be wonderful.

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**Author:** ![Torquas\_Thurd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/torquas_thurd/32/299999_2.png) [@Torquas\_Thurd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Torquas_Thurd)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/128 "2019-12-06T21:13:42Z")

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My corp’s home system generated an FOB that hung around for over a week. Finally got a bunch of us together to blow it away. Two days later, yet another FOB. SIgh. Still, we have moons every day and the RECONs don’t go near moons…yet (give CCP time for that one). Best solution we’ve found? Jump to the next system and mine away in peace.

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**Author:** ![Jason\_Robertt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jason_robertt/32/477419_2.png) [@Jason\_Robertt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jason_Robertt)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/129 "2019-12-22T07:35:10Z")

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My one and only question.  
Can a Thrasher take out the scout groups or is it a waste of time?

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/130 "2019-12-23T21:04:07Z")

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That’s a good question.

I’m thinking you’re referring to doing it solo so probably not.

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**Author:** ![Jason\_Robertt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jason_robertt/32/477419_2.png) [@Jason\_Robertt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jason_Robertt)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/131 "2019-12-25T01:32:33Z")

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Indeed I was thinking of Solo. I’m now researching into a Battleship, which will take some time but I hear that can handle the Triglavian groups.

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**Author:** ![Salvador\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvador_sinak/32/172832_2.png) [@Salvador\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvador_Sinak)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/132 "2019-12-25T03:15:14Z")

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This is what I use to kill the recons. It can easily take down a full squad of 5 with half shields remaining. It is also a darn good mission runner breezing through L3’s.

 ![2019.12.25.03.11.19](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/c/dc8395a210cfb51d3bc2c1ee1b561ca8495e5e9c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Jason\_Robertt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jason_robertt/32/477419_2.png) [@Jason\_Robertt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jason_Robertt)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/133 "2019-12-26T19:09:37Z")

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![8500_screenshots_20191226110747_1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/d/fd1f2db21b6183f8eaf9275709a9ed25be3341bc.jpeg) I’m hoping the picture shows up. This is what I kind of plan on using.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2019, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/134 "2019-12-26T19:12:18Z")

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that’s a ■■■■ fit.

You need webs to apply, your extenders are completely useless because of shield booster, etc.

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**Author:** ![Jason\_Robertt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jason_robertt/32/477419_2.png) [@Jason\_Robertt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jason_Robertt)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/135 "2019-12-26T20:15:59Z")

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This is good info. I’m not a good fitter.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/136 "2019-12-26T20:20:45Z")

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whats more, that the part of the forum dedicated to “mining & extraction”. I guess there should be a forum for trig killing.

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**Author:** ![Jason\_Robertt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jason_robertt/32/477419_2.png) [@Jason\_Robertt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jason_Robertt)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/137 "2019-12-26T20:55:18Z")

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You probably are correct however, since there aren’t many, this one will do. I’ve alterred my simulation a bit into a tech 2 version vs a tech 1 version. Would this work better?

 ![8500_screenshots_20191226110747_1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/6/e622a29948ed91f16db77c3fa228f23c01457142.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/138 "2019-12-26T21:42:20Z")

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bottom left corner =\> import & export, copy to clipboard. Then paste it here, put it in fixed (monospace) font, hide it so people don’t have an ugly text feces waiting to gank them.

You have both artillery and AC =\> 1 suckpoint  
You have I guess purger or extender rigs =\> 1 suckpoint  
You have 2 extenders, one shield recharger, two flux coil =\> 10 suckpoints  
You have a web and no grappler, while fighting in grappler range =\> 1 suckpoint.

What you need : cap battery (because they dry you), grappler + 2 webs. rigs can be solidifier if you use large T2 booster, cap rig if you use x-large (or overclock if needed ?). ; possibly a tracking rig.

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**Author:** ![Jason\_Robertt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jason_robertt/32/477419_2.png) [@Jason\_Robertt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jason_Robertt)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/139 "2019-12-27T00:47:03Z")

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Revised again. Core launcher is just to use up the high point not enough power grid for 8 1400mm howitzers.

```
[Maelstrom, ***Simulated Maelstrom Fitting]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Shield Power Relay II
Reactor Control Unit II
Damage Control II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II
Heavy Stasis Grappler II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Large Cap Battery II

1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
Salvager I
Core Probe Launcher II

Large Core Defense Field Extender II
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Large Projectile Metastasis Adjuster II

Valkyrie II x5

Nuclear L x480
Titanium Sabot L x80
Hail L x480
Cap Booster 400 x10
Quake L x200
Core Scanner Probe I x8

```

Ultimately I’m still a long way to achieving this type of fit anyways but, I’m trying to get information. Thanks

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 4:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/140 "2019-12-27T04:36:35Z")

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Could drop down to 1200mm arty’s, they have better tracking and reduced fitting requirements. Then you might be able to switch out the Reactor Control Unit for a Power Diagnostic System which gives a bonus to Shield, Shield Recharge, Cap, Cap Recharge and Powergrid.

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**Author:** ![Jason\_Robertt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jason_robertt/32/477419_2.png) [@Jason\_Robertt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jason_Robertt)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/141 "2019-12-27T06:34:39Z")

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thank you for the help. 🙂

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2019, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/some-thoughts-on-dealing-with-hi-sec-triglavian-recons-squads/183447/142 "2019-12-27T10:07:24Z")

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hmm.

You have no more shield booster. Which means you will die easily.  
The maelstrom has a bonus to shield boosting. Use it for this. forego passive/buffer shield modules. So remove that

```auto
Heavy Capacitor Booster II

```

and use a (large ? x-large ?) shield booster.

What you want is, at least 300 ehp/s in order to tank the incoming DPS. Most of the damage is done in explosive type, then thermal, I think I use a 20/30/10/40 damage profile ; therefore going em and extender is a waste of time. go one invul, one explosive hardener, one thermal rig, and cap rig. Check the values by installing pyfa and testing what is the best.

Weapon selection : artilleries shoot further than AC ; but they have much worse rof, worse tracking, worse DPS. Which means against small orbiting targets they are the worse choice. Also they use more pwr. so go with 800mm AC instead.

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