# Something that bugged me about "kybernaut philosophy" **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2020, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695 "2020-08-25T11:23:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Elein\_Caldriea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elein_caldriea/32/221237_2.png) [@Elein\_Caldriea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elein_Caldriea)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/44 "2020-08-26T02:51:47Z")
Once more there are no mentions of the trigs forcing bio adaption. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/45 "2020-08-26T02:55:03Z")
Well, here’s your options: Either a)the population on planets where stars are going dark are all being killed by the sudden loss of solar energy, **or** b)the population are being bio-adapted to survive, as per the news posts that informed @Xeux’s statement. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/46 "2020-08-26T02:55:56Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > The forcible violation of someone’s person is rape. Maybe if you repeat it enough times, that will make your statement true. ---
**Author:** ![Elein\_Caldriea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elein_caldriea/32/221237_2.png) [@Elein\_Caldriea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elein_Caldriea)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/49 "2020-08-26T02:58:26Z")
Right and heres why you’re a moron. You literally have no idea whether trigs are forcing bio adaption or not… ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/50 "2020-08-26T03:01:12Z")
Yes, because ‘do this or freeze and starve’ is a real choice. Hold a gun to their heads and claim nobody’s forcing anything, right? ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/54 "2020-08-26T03:08:28Z")
> [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](#): > > woooosh That is an apt summary of this discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/55 "2020-08-26T05:32:30Z")
@Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt this discussion has been most educational. To think I’ve wasted all these years deconstructing the social problems of New Eden and pointing out where things should be improved, when I could have instantly solved the issue by saying “But what about the Gallente treatment of POWs?” or something. Amazing. ---
**Author:** ![Maira\_Blackfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maira_blackfire/32/394201_2.png) [@Maira\_Blackfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maira_Blackfire)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/56 "2020-08-26T08:27:13Z")
What’s a Borg, some kind of drone ship? ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/57 "2020-08-26T10:32:55Z")
Some Triglav word that means something like “noob” I think. There’s those Raznaborg Triglavian ships which are weaker than the other kinds of Triggies so… ---
**Author:** ![Serene\_Repose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serene_repose/32/384960_2.png) [@Serene\_Repose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serene_Repose)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/58 "2020-08-26T11:09:12Z")
There’s what we say amongst ourselves, and what we say to _them_. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/59 "2020-08-26T16:09:12Z")
Short for raznaborg, perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![Maira\_Blackfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maira_blackfire/32/394201_2.png) [@Maira\_Blackfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maira_Blackfire)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/60 "2020-08-26T16:29:31Z")
Your guess is as good as mine ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/61 "2020-08-27T06:55:54Z")
Kybernauts have philosphy? First time heard it. Ah, you mean “philosphy”. ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/62 "2020-08-27T07:43:58Z")
I believe there are two significant points that can easily negate claims that Triglavian culture is superior. I have yet to see anything that even remotely suggests the existence of fancy dresses of Triglav origin, that accentuate the female form, in the same manner as e.g. Amarr or Gallente fashion. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/63 "2020-08-27T17:46:17Z")
Ah edencom philosphy ? first time i heard it ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/64 "2020-08-27T18:01:30Z")
Edencom Philosophy: _We are good enough We are smart enough We can beat the Triglavians today!_ ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/65 "2020-08-27T19:09:10Z")
“Niarja and Caldari State want to know your location” ---
**Author:** ![Arimia\_Milenor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arimia_milenor/32/478910_2.png) [@Arimia\_Milenor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arimia_Milenor)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/66 "2020-08-27T19:22:09Z")
You made some good points, Miss Valate. And I would like to add some others: > 1. Now it came to pass in the third day of the first month of the tenth year of the rule of emperor Amash-Akura that the midday deliberations were abruptly brought to a halt when the day darkened in the sky. > 2. And the sun went black as night and birds fell from the sky and flowers shriveled in the field and people fell sick in the streets and in the houses. > 3. And in this moment of terrible distress the skies opened with a loud shriek and angels, bright as the sun was black, descended down to earth and their beauty soothed all the people and the animals alike. > 1. The sefrim stood tall and beautiful, clad in their white and amber robes, with masks of gold and silver to protect people from being struck dead by their angelic beauty. > 2. And all this time the emperor Amash-Akura did not age one day and was as healthy and strong as the day he came of age. The Scepter gave him vigor and the Crown gave him acumen and his rule was wise and fair. This is text from Chapter I of the Epitoth in the Book of Scriptures, written 6000 years ago, when Amarr was only one small nation in the planet Athra… And well before Shrouded Days when presumably Triglavian Collective escaped into the Abyss. Maybe this all is just a myth. But still there is one possibility. What if Collective are descendands of the very those, who helped to found Empire — of the legendary sefrim? Collective dark the suns as part of their stellar engineering. They adapt population of planets to coming changes. They posess advanced biotechnology. They hide their faces. And they do what is very similar to Reclaiming… You can call me mad, even heretic. But this similarities are too obvious to just throw them away. ---
**Author:** ![Arimia\_Milenor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arimia_milenor/32/478910_2.png) [@Arimia\_Milenor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arimia_Milenor)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/67 "2020-08-27T19:31:41Z")
> [@Valerie\_Valate](#): > > I believe there are two significant points that can easily negate claims that Triglavian culture is superior. > > I have yet to see anything that even remotely suggests the existence of fancy dresses of Triglav origin, that accentuate the female form, in the same manner as e.g. Amarr or Gallente fashion. What we see now is survival suits, so maybe they have some more ceremonial or just fancy dresses… But what is your second point? ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2020, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695/68 "2020-08-27T19:56:09Z")
> [@Arimia\_Milenor](#): > > But what is your second point? Well, normally I’m not one to boast. But my boobs (Unlike say, Zorya’s) are significant enough to count as two distinct, separate, points. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/something-that-bugged-me-about-kybernaut-philosophy/262695.md?page=4)