# SOOOOOO the new FW seems to be NOICE **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 13, 2022, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268 "2022-11-13T08:50:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/1 "2022-11-13T08:50:38Z")
soooooooo i was tired of station games in JITA listening to a podcast for 30 minutes and NO FUN, no people shooting except the idiot that start to undock on a kronos and spoil the game … so i clone jumped to AMARR r and tried there a BIIIIIIIG fleet jumped on top of me and tried to murder me I’m quick and docked in time them we had a fun conversation for some time and i said to them that I was procrastinating to go FW because i don’t know the new rules long story short , o ■■■■ lets go to low sec, jumped to my home base with the suspect timer still counting , no incidents on the way there , i asked some info about ne new complexes on the militia chat, some guys promptly put me aware of most changes and i gave it a 30 minutes go its full of people ,i mean amarr fw was always active but its MORE now, the new respawning “static” complexes sounds like a GREAT idea to me **as the biggest authority in FW on this forum** (I’m great ❤ ) i must say , IT LOOKS GOOD maybe CCP can do something right for a change needs more investigation but as a first impression **score :** 10/10 dead mimies 😃 ![70kyta](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/8/5/285694814448b49b94d6c03a8d0d6812e8314acb.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/2 "2022-11-13T09:19:27Z")
I think Amarr is scared to go to your Lowsec space. I know where there are a bunch of Gallente lowsec gate campers who are shooting at anything with greater than 2 second subwarp. I caught them sleeping early today and supplied a tip that smart bombs were needed to stop me. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/3 "2022-11-13T09:21:53Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > I think Amarr is scared to go to your Lowsec space. > I know where there are a bunch of lowsec gate campers who are shooting at anything with greater than 2 second subwarp. > > I caught them sleeping early today and supplied a tip that smart bombs were needed to stop me. fortunately i was not catched on the way they say the new navy destroyers are the new meta i don’t have any … need to re learn a lot but i scored a nice kill using the good old meme fit coercer it looks like a blast , I’m pumped ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/4 "2022-11-13T09:25:24Z")
New Navy Destroyers? Are those OP? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/5 "2022-11-13T09:25:47Z")
[quote="Iceacid Frostpacker, post:4, topic:384268, full:true, username:Iceacid\_Frostpacker”] New Navy Destroyers? Are those OP? [/quote] i don’t know people say the are veeeery stronk they also say the mimie one (thrasher fleet issue) is the best and OP the other 3 appear balanced just repeating the info i got ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/6 "2022-11-13T09:28:44Z")
Are the new rules for signing up for FW different? Like can a pilot destroy their highsec secruity status by doing FW? I thought that the only way to destroy your Highsec Secruity status was to gank in highsec. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/7 "2022-11-13T09:29:55Z")
[quote="Iceacid Frostpacker, post:6, topic:384268, full:true, username:Iceacid\_Frostpacker”] Are the new rules for signing up for FW different? Like can a pilot destroy their highsec secruity status by doing FW? I thought that the only way to destroy your Highsec Secruity status was to gank in highsec. [/quote] don’t know a long time ago CCP changed the rules to FW and people almost don’t destroy rep anymore but I’m oblivious of the current changes sec status is drained slooooowly because of some idiot pirate but is not that big of a deal, only if you atack them out of the complexes … it happens but is not that common because a good pirate is always blinking yellow anyway QUIT mining and do some pew pew with us frostpacker ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/8 "2022-11-13T11:03:17Z")
Is it still about flying around a space maypole? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/9 "2022-11-13T11:10:02Z")
[quote="Ramona McCandless, post:8, topic:384268, full:true, username:Ramona\_McCandless”] Is it still about flying around a space maypole? [/quote] yeah but now they put a propper tower there so the maypole never looked better 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/10 "2022-11-13T11:10:14Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > soooooooo > i was tired of station games in JITA > listening to a podcast for 30 minutes and NO FUN, no people shooting except the idiot that start to undock on a kronos and spoil the game … > so i clone jumped to AMARR r and tried there > a BIIIIIIIG fleet jumped on top of me and tried to murder me > I’m quick and docked in time > > them we had a fun conversation for some time and i said to them that I was procrastinating to go FW because i don’t know the new rules > > long story short , o ■■■■ lets go to low sec, jumped to my home base with the suspect timer still counting , no incidents on the way > > there , i asked some info about ne new complexes on the militia chat, some guys promptly put me aware of most changes and i gave it a 30 minutes go > > its full of people ,i mean amarr fw was always active but its MORE now, the new respawning “static” complexes sounds like a GREAT idea to me > > **as the biggest authority in FW on this forum** (I’m great ❤ ) i must say , IT LOOKS GOOD > > maybe CCP can do something right for a change > > needs more investigation but as a first impression > > **score :** 10/10 dead mimies 😃 Sure, have fun fighting nullbear navy dread farmers and their 7 toon double buffer alt fleets in plexes … ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/11 "2022-11-13T11:12:01Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > Sure, have fun fighting nullbear navy dread farmers and their 7 toon double buffer alt fleets in plexes … i was super afraid of that the focus on fleet and null ification of low because I’m a solo pilot and stuff but they made fleet complexes and solo complexes and the “static” complex thing appears to be a super nice idea and reduces that problem a lot to me is the BEST new thing ofc i need to investigate more ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/12 "2022-11-13T11:16:00Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > i was super afraid of that > the focus on fleet and null ification of low > because I’m a solo pilot and stuff > but they made fleet complexes and solo complexes > and the “static” complex thing appears to be a super nice idea and reduces that problem a lot > > ofc i need to investigate more there is definitely a wider variety of plexes to choose from, the lowest form being the Scout T1 NVY plexes. But those can still get camped by nullbear altfleet if he feels all the other plexes are too hot. Tbh, solo players and T2 hulls are quite fcked by this update, and will have to accept living with double the losses. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/13 "2022-11-13T11:18:38Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > there is definitely a wider variety of plexes to choose from, the lowest form being the Scout T1 NVY plexes. But those can still get camped by nullbear altfleet if he feels all the other plexes are too hot. > > Tbh, solo players are quite fcked by this update, or will have to accept living with double the losses. i kinda agree with you but i was SUPER DOOMER thinking all would become null sec BS with fleet and f1 monkeys etc the fact of static complexes that re spawn insta makes fleet camping all the complexes impossible sure i was aware that the SOLO player would be ■■■■■■ a bit but is less than i imagined and i think in the long run it would be fine the null sec people are terrible pilots anyway ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/14 "2022-11-13T11:26:25Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > the null sec people are terrible pilots anyway They’re _“muh durr melikes isk”_ idiots. We’ll see, I specifically want to see how the supply cache, supply depots, rendezvous and propaganda game will pan out over time to work system advantage, as it could bring a lot of wiggle room to have many various battlefields in one system. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/15 "2022-11-13T11:31:30Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > They’re _“muh durr melikes isk”_ idiots. > > We’ll see, I specifically want to see how the supply cache, supply depots, rendezvous and propaganda game will pan out over time to work system advantage, as it could bring a lot of wiggle room to have many various battlefields in one system. i admit I’m unaware of most things have no idea what are those “supply cache, supply depots, rendezvous” like i said in other topics to me CCP would ■■■■ fw beyond recognition i not even tried by pure spite but boredom made me try today i entered a system 20 mimies on local , thought it was a mimie system but it was amarr successfully dplexed the thing with only one mimie at 1 au on dscam but he chicken out to enter them i jumped to a mimie system , about 10 people on local entered a plex, few minutes latter one mimie entered , i killed him , 4 more entered but i bailed they tried to camp the exit gate but i evade them and back to home station had fun like i said it was a positive first impression in contrast to my super low expectations and its full of people I’m aware most players dislike what i like about the game, this forum is all about people asking for things that i hate lets see ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/16 "2022-11-13T11:39:26Z")
Just fly underpowered stuff and try to get an edge despite the odds, you’ll have fun. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/17 "2022-11-13T11:40:10Z")
[quote="Verlyn, post:16, topic:384268, full:true, username:Verlyn”] Just fly underpowered stuff and try to get an edge despite the odds, you’ll have fun. [/quote] ATM i just have underpowered stuff anyway 😃 i will buy some of those new destroyers thought ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/18 "2022-11-13T11:47:22Z")
If you plan on buying cruisers, go for buffer fits only. Active rep fits are useless, unless maybe active shield fits with Crystal set, havent tried that yet. The thrasher Fleet has insane Rate of Fire, quite OP imo, but meh. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/19 "2022-11-13T11:47:51Z")
i don’t believe in implants [quote="Verlyn, post:18, topic:384268, username:Verlyn”] The thrasher Fleet has insane Rate of Fire, quite OP imo, but meh. [/quote] yeah people said this to me ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268/20 "2022-11-13T12:24:28Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > don’t believe in implants heh, you might have to in this new environment as solo. I dont go without them personally. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/soooooo-the-new-fw-seems-to-be-noice/384268.md?page=2)