# SPACE IS WAAAY TOO BRIGHT! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 15, 2025, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137 "2025-12-15T17:41:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/85 "2025-12-20T01:13:04Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I would suggest to CCP the brightness of Caldari space could be reduced Yes, that’s the point. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > more so than other regions No need, those are fine. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/86 "2025-12-20T15:51:03Z")
> [@Meridan\_Night](#): > > Low shader has blur off, that’s why the box gets grayed out in low mode. See thats what I though. So can you explain to me @Syzygium why you keep repeating to me to turn it off? Did you even look at my screenshots or you are just posting on autopilot mode, whoever complains give him the same ■■■■ advice how to workaround game bad design? > [@Syzygium](#): > > - step1: care for a good ambient lighting, your Monitor should _not_ be the only light source within an otherwise dark vision area, make sure to have indirect “ambient light” behind and around it. > - Step2: google or youtube your monitor model and check if there is an expert review with recommended settings for gaming, either HDR or non HDR → apply them > - Step3: download a color-calibration file for your monitor or create a personal one by using the OS monitor calibration tool. Save it and apply it. If you want to use HDR, do a proper HDR calibration. > - Step4: open your GPU drivers setup program, select the correct gamma value. > - Step5: play around with your GPU settings (hue/saturation/contrast/brightness/image enhancement modes) until you have an _excellent_ Desktop picture display. Use calibration images to check if dark areas are really dark and not just dark grey. Check if white areas are clear white but still show details, not a white cloud or have any blueish tints. > - Step6: Open the game, undock in Jita, face the “bright cloud” and adjust the brightness-slider unless you get a good contrast between the almost white “center” and clear blue outliers. Damn all this to fix a problem that only EVE has. I do play other games, I am worried that by doing all this I screw up graphic in those. Also this is a workaround. My setting is completely fine, I don’t have this problem in any other game I play. And if we are using workarounds to fix game’s bad design then I prefer CTRL+SHIFT+F9. Seriously after all the recent graphic “improvements” and enhancements, I am turning graphic off completely more and more often. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/87 "2025-12-20T16:25:57Z")
He’s just arguing for argument’s sake, he has no understanding on any of this. When I stated my monitor is colour graded his… reply effectively was “lol no u", like a tool. There are a whole bunch of tools on this forum, some pretend to be one just to troll and to a degree I can respect that. Most others are just that: tools. Unless you have some weirdo setup it’s not a monitor or settings thing, because then it would also show elsewhere and in other games. What he stated is all nonsense. This is just CCP being CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/88 "2025-12-20T16:43:46Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Also this is a workaround. It isn’t. It is the way to properly set up a PC system to have excellent graphical display. If a problem doesn’t occur for 95+% of all people, but for you it does and you insist to ignore any and all advice from guys who have solved similar problems for others before, it is very obvious that we have a complete _you-problem_ here. 🤷‍♂️ Enjoy EVE without graphics then. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/89 "2025-12-20T16:44:22Z")
I don’t know why people are arguing that this is _not_ game settings, when one person (me) sees this playable UI: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/9/6/d96d1d3bc9726be8d8e9de5ba7cfd7763fa1b0d1.jpeg) While another person gets bright images like these: > [@Akeem\_Jahrastamon](#): > > ![Screenshot (1093)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/6/8/268029723cbd622a4781305b9e7761b0bd3b25a5.jpeg) > [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > ![brightasfuck](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/5/d/95d055dbbc23252d254706eb4bf44521757864c7.jpeg) All three pictures are looking in the same direction in the same skybox of The Forge region. It’s the same skybox yet the pictures look vastly different, so the main difference in brightness is our **game settings.** Clearly Vokan’s picture below has far more contrast than mine, with less shades in the middle of the range but more at the extreme making the darker colours near black and the lighter colours indistinguishable white. I haven’t touched my settings in ages, but if I see your images and your complaints I can imagine it could help you to change yours. And in addition to your game settings, also make sure your monitor settings and other light around your monitor are fine so you don’t suffer from bright monitor lights. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/90 "2025-12-20T16:54:09Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > But I hope anyone can now see with access to pictures of a much fuller frame that this is a very subjective and small selection of space. No it isn’t, and I totally agree with Aisha. Try visiting Uemisaisen via Isanamo, and head for the Wiyrkormi Peace Corps station. _This_ level of brightness is absurd…. ![Uemisaisen](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/5/a/85a5893a8b69b348b9e62697e8a39b7690018dd4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/91 "2025-12-20T16:54:11Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > this is _not_ game settings because we have 2634354 different monitor, GPU and drivers manufacturers on the market and each of those acting slightly differently when interpreting and finally displaying the rendered picture. That is why you look for expert settings for your monitor model, there are nerds out there testing gaming monitors with special hardware to find out color and brightness gradients, possible bad factory settings and give advice how to set them up for the best possible picture this monitor can give. Not too bright, not too dark, not too sharp, but not smudgy either. THEN you have to calibrate your SYSTEM to work perfectly with that monitor, setting limits for Dark and Bright areas, getting good grey values without color tint and so on. Some visial “enhancing” features of GPUs also completely mess up contrast and brightness again, not really making the picture “better”. So you test around to find out what actualy looks good to you (usually it’s best to just disable them alltogether and at most balance out color-temperature so it is convienent for your eyes). Having some backlight in your room is an absolute no-brainer, still a lot of people ignore that part. And THEN in the last step you use the settings of the application to do some last niche adjustments that this special software might need. ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/92 "2025-12-20T16:56:31Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Damn all this to fix a problem that only EVE has. Considering all the people telling you how to f\*cking fix it, the problem here is clearly between your keyboard and chair. Someone else needs to fix all your problems for you, apparently. Enough of this cryfest, thread muted. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/93 "2025-12-20T16:58:42Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > No it isn’t, and I totally agree with Aisha. Try visiting Uemisaisen via Isanamo, and head for the Wiyrkormi Peace Corps station. _This_ level of brightness is absurd…. What you are looking at is not a regular Caldari skybox though that Aisha is talking about. Your picture is the silly frozen sky with snowflakes white upon white in an already bright HS nebula. I wish they’d fix those metaliminal storm cloud effects already for other reasons (a horizon in 3D space? seriously?), but reducing the brightness of this frozen cloud effect is another thing I wouldn’t mind to see. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/94 "2025-12-20T17:00:14Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Damn all this to fix a problem that only EVE has. I agree. Everything else on my PC displays just fine _with one lot of settings_, and that includes other MMOs, my art website, Netflix, Amazon Prime…yada yada. It is ONLY in EVE that the problem of over-brightness appears. I’m not going to adjust my entire PC settings for one game. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/95 "2025-12-20T17:02:13Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > What you are looking at is not a regular Caldari skybox Nonsense. The exact same happens in Sobaseki…just 2 systems away from Uemisaisen. There are _many_ such examples. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/96 "2025-12-20T17:02:17Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > GPU and drivers manufacturers on the market and each of those acting slightly differently when interpreting and finally displaying the rendered picture. You’re, very conveniently, forgetting one variable: the game itself and how THAT interacts with drivers and videocards. > [@Syzygium](#): > > That is why you look for expert settings for your monitor model, there are nerds out there testing gaming monitors with special hardware to find out color and brightness gradients, possible bad factory settings and give advice how to set them up for the best possible picture this monitor can give. Not too bright, not too dark, not too sharp, but not smudgy either. > > THEN you have to calibrate your SYSTEM to work perfectly with that monitor, setting limits for Dark and Bright areas, getting good grey values without color tint and so on. Some visial “enhancing” features of GPUs also completely mess up contrast and brightness again, not really making the picture “better”. So you test around to find out what actualy looks good to you (usually it’s best to just disable them alltogether and at most balance out color-temperature so it is convienent for your eyes). > Having some backlight in your room is an absolute no-brainer, still a lot of people ignore that part. That’s just a hipster nerdgasm, completely unnecessary for any normal use and yes, EVE is (or should be) normal. Caldari space being much brighter than the others is a simple fact, and on top of that (for some people) EVE doesn’t seem to play well with their videocard and/or drivers. Two different things and both can be true **and both are CCP’s doing**. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/97 "2025-12-20T17:04:37Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > Nonsense. The exact same happens in Sobaseki…just 2 systems away from Uemisaisen. There are _many_ such examples. … ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/5/c/c5ccf8968761a56d023d769e150d40205a5bf1f4.png) I’m not surprised the same happens there. That system _also_ has the same ice white metaliminal storm effect. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/98 "2025-12-20T17:09:31Z")
Some more images of the brightest part of Caldari space: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/9/6/596ec396ad9fd751a73a4c8a6205dcfb37a045e7.jpeg) Brightness slider highest - clearly not a good choice ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/a/b/dabad77f34c36c15cabdcb5b867212d444b9b276.jpeg) Brightness slider lowest - clearly too extreme and not a good choice either ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/0/5/00518c84f7b0743a6a530331d409f809df2efd4f.jpeg) Brightness slider middle - seems great to me! ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/99 "2025-12-20T17:10:10Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > I don’t know why people are arguing that this is _not_ game settings, when one person (me) sees this playable UI: That’s quite laughable given that you’ve deliberately pointed at an area in Jita with no bright stars or nebulae. Try pointing the other way. If, like me, you regularly sit right behind the Jita station….there is a bright star over towards Perimiter gate that is particularly annoying….and I have to include the 4-4 station in my view without having the star. The issue is not just nebulae….very often it is the absurdly bright stars that are the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/100 "2025-12-20T17:10:51Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > That’s quite laughable given that you’ve deliberately pointed at an area in Jita with no bright stars or nebulae. What? It’s the brightest spot in the The Forge region that I’m looking at in those pictures. Please turn around in that part of space and show me a brighter spot. The only way I can make it brighter is if I zoom in on one particular part: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/5/5/7558f50b3803245d61ca7da7f99832c0791de52f.jpeg) > [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > very often it is the absurdly bright stars that are the issue. Who would have thought that **stars** in a space game are _bright_?! The absurdity! ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/101 "2025-12-20T17:13:33Z")
In your example I responded to above, you were NOT comparing one user in Jita with another in Jita, you were comparing three entirely different systems….Jita, New Caldari, and Korsiki. Why are you so determined to _ignore and brush over_ what multiple people have presented with actual images ?? ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/102 "2025-12-20T17:14:51Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Who would have thought that **stars** in a space game are _bright_?! The absurdity! The stars in EVE are brighter at 25AU than they are when you are right frikin next to them ! What was that about absurdity ? ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/103 "2025-12-20T17:14:52Z")
Korsiki, New Caldari and Jita are all in the same region of The Forge. They share the exact same skybox. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137/104 "2025-12-20T17:16:05Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > The stars in EVE are brighter at 25AU than they are when you are right frikin next to them ! What was that about absurdity ? The game helps you by making the stars slightly less overbearingly bright when right next to them, because people could complain about the brightness of being right next to a star. While people learn from young age that looking into the sun is not a good idea because it is ‘bright’, it wouldn’t be beneficial for players to realistically increase this brightness even further when in a spaceship right next to that sun. People aren’t used to fly close to the sun, so it can be tuned down for gameplay reason without losing the realism people expect from suns. So they toned that part down a little. It’s still bright, but not ‘you are on fire’ bright. For people elsewhere in the solar system besides ‘on grid with the sun’ the local star is logically the brightest object in the solar system, just like anyone would expect from the local star. Stars are bright, intentionally so. But I thought this topic was about skyboxes, not stars? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/space-is-waaay-too-bright/503137.md?page=6)