# Specialized Industrial Ship Redistribution! Also, Upwell and ORE

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/specialized-industrial-ship-redistribution-also-upwell-and-ore/12700>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Tags:** redesign\
**Created:** [August 1, 2017, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/specialized-industrial-ship-redistribution-also-upwell-and-ore/12700 "2017-08-01T05:15:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Cristl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cristl/32/13387_2.png) [@Cristl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cristl)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 4:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/specialized-industrial-ship-redistribution-also-upwell-and-ore/12700/21 "2017-08-06T04:08:11Z")

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> [@Dior\_Ambraelle](#):
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> Also, is it really necessary to increase the skill requirement of the Noctis?

It wasn’t in my original suggestion and I got a lot of shit for it, so yes.

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**Author:** ![Dior\_Ambraelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dior_ambraelle/32/393685_2.png) [@Dior\_Ambraelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dior_Ambraelle)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/specialized-industrial-ship-redistribution-also-upwell-and-ore/12700/22 "2017-08-06T11:44:04Z")

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The idea of a special slave transport for Amarr also pops up often, here is how I would modify it:

passenger transport (probably Concord, maybe Upwell)  
limited, LP store based BPC distribution  
no normal cargo bay, 1000 - 2000 m3 passenger bay  
skill requirement: spaceship command 1  
role bonus: no standing loss for any kind of passenger transportation

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/specialized-industrial-ship-redistribution-also-upwell-and-ore/12700/23 "2017-08-06T13:38:31Z")

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> The Bestower has for decades been used by the Empire as a slave transport, shipping human labor between cultivated planets in Imperial space. As a proof to how reliable this class has been through the years, the Emperor has used an upgraded version of this very same class as transports for the Imperial Treasury. The Bestower has very thick armor and large cargo space.

From the Bestower description.

–Space Trucker Gadget

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**Author:** ![Dior\_Ambraelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dior_ambraelle/32/393685_2.png) [@Dior\_Ambraelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dior_Ambraelle)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/specialized-industrial-ship-redistribution-also-upwell-and-ore/12700/24 "2017-08-06T16:13:02Z")

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Thanks Gadget, but we can’t fly the lore unfortunately. Don’t you think that people are a commodity that also deserves it’s own special ship?

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**Author:** ![guigui\_lechat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/guigui_lechat/32/284497_2.png) [@guigui\_lechat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/guigui_lechat)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/specialized-industrial-ship-redistribution-also-upwell-and-ore/12700/25 "2017-08-06T19:48:36Z")

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additional bay could be

- ship bay, enough room to hold one BS (50000 m3). packaged of course
- salvage bay
- Michael bay, for explosions.

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**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/specialized-industrial-ship-redistribution-also-upwell-and-ore/12700/26 "2017-08-06T19:50:25Z")

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> [@guigui\_lechat](#):
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> Michael bay, for explosions.

That would be pointless, the ship would explode simply by looking at it in your hangar…

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/specialized-industrial-ship-redistribution-also-upwell-and-ore/12700/27 "2017-08-06T20:01:10Z")

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> [@Dior\_Ambraelle](#):
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> Don’t you think that people are a commodity that also deserves it’s own special ship?

Totally not sure how to address this question.

Gadget is Minmatar, so she says…NO. People are not a commodity.

My Amarr alts are likely to answer…NO. Slaves are a commodity, but they deserve nothing except to be re-educated.

Personally as a player… a troop transport, while fluffy, should have no actual gameplay in EvE. It’s below the scope of pilots, and I’m not seeing a need for transporting enough livestock (that’s not PI - those fall to an Epithal) to rate a specialized cargo bay.

As a special fluffy lore piece of a special issue ship - sure, the Dev’s can have all the fun they want, but I couldn’t in good conscience ASK for them to apply resources to making a cattle-car.

Actually… maybe they can re-skin the luxury liner with a livestock hold as a Christmas or Anniversary gift or something 🙂

–Gadget, cleaning up after scientists with a shovel.

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**Author:** ![Dior\_Ambraelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dior_ambraelle/32/393685_2.png) [@Dior\_Ambraelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dior_Ambraelle)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/specialized-industrial-ship-redistribution-also-upwell-and-ore/12700/28 "2017-08-06T20:01:31Z")

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Better: it would play the explosion animation constantly 😀

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**Author:** ![Amarisen\_Gream](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amarisen_gream/32/296747_2.png) [@Amarisen\_Gream](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amarisen_Gream)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/specialized-industrial-ship-redistribution-also-upwell-and-ore/12700/29 "2017-08-07T11:08:54Z")

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> [@Myrddin\_Calyx](#):
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> Yes, but it makes more business sense for ORE to expand their production capabilities than it does for Upwell to impinge on the market of a consortium member. Upwell making ships doesn’t make sense.

It wouldn’t so much as to say, Upwell is into making ships, but they just be come the brand umbrella for all the members in the group.

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**Author:** ![Xenos\_Monith\_Maulerant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xenos_monith_maulerant/32/352087_2.png) [@Xenos\_Monith\_Maulerant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xenos_Monith_Maulerant)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/specialized-industrial-ship-redistribution-also-upwell-and-ore/12700/30 "2017-08-09T15:45:18Z")

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CCP, can you please listen to this?

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