# State of Fabai, Aridia, and what should be done about it **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [April 13, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572 "2019-04-13T20:07:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Alizabeth\_Vea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alizabeth_vea/32/122884_2.png) [@Alizabeth\_Vea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alizabeth_Vea)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/102 "2019-04-17T19:45:15Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Now that’s just ridiculous, Alizabeth. Samira didn’t help Miz attack Chakaid, Miz helped Samira. It’s a distinction without much of a different, I’m afraid. However, don’t misunderstand, I’m not ‘blaming’ her for going traitor after an attack on her family, just stating that she did. If Del’Thul was the only one that had the resources to do that, then that is what it is, I guess. I know that if someone attacked my family, I would do whatever I had to in order to kill them. I would also accept the consequences from that. So, yes, I am sympathetic to the reasons for Kernher’s position, but that doesn’t change said position. People ought to take responsibility for their actions. She worked with an avowed Matari terrorist to attack military forces of the Kingdom and is trying to topple the Imperial government, by violence if necessary. That’s treason. ---
**Author:** ![Eclypt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eclypt/32/272994_2.png) [@Eclypt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eclypt)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/103 "2019-04-17T19:47:28Z")
> [@Alizabeth\_Vea](#): > > So, yes, I am sympathetic to the reasons for Kernher’s position Are _all_ Sarumites so soft, or is it just House Newelle? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/104 "2019-04-17T19:50:00Z")
Bwahahaah. I really hope there’s enough of you left to scrape together an apology if you _actually_ manage to annoy Mitty. ---
**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/105 "2019-04-17T19:53:32Z")
> [@Alizabeth\_Vea](#): > > So, yes, I am sympathetic to the reasons for Kernher’s position, but that doesn’t change said position. People ought to take responsibility for their actions. She worked with an avowed Matari terrorist to attack military forces of the Kingdom and is trying to topple the Imperial government, by violence if necessary. That’s treason. Then so it is. ---
**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/106 "2019-04-17T19:54:55Z")
> [@Eclypt](#): > > Are _all_ Sarumites so soft, or is it just House Newelle? If you have a _problem_ with us, it’s easy enough to find me in space. Come find me and I’ll show you how _soft_ we are. Otherwise, take your empty words, the Kingdom nobility your family probably found in a cereal box, and your ugly face and go get lost. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/107 "2019-04-17T19:54:56Z")
> [@Alizabeth\_Vea](#): > > topple the Imperial government Sami! Are you actually trying to overthrow the Empress? Or do you just want her to, you know, reconsider some stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Mitara\_Newelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mitara_newelle/32/384431_2.png) [@Mitara\_Newelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mitara_Newelle)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/108 "2019-04-17T19:56:41Z")
I’ve seen where this one’s nose resides, that is all that needs be said for now. ---
**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/109 "2019-04-17T20:01:57Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > > [@Alizabeth\_Vea](#): > > > > topple the Imperial government > > Sami! Are you actually trying to overthrow the Empress? Or do you just want her to, you know, reconsider some stuff? Ideally the latter. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/110 "2019-04-17T20:19:16Z")
Well, there you go, then. Course correction, not upending the boat. ---
**Author:** ![Ilan\_Ardishapur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ilan_ardishapur/32/341059_2.png) [@Ilan\_Ardishapur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ilan_Ardishapur)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/111 "2019-04-17T20:31:50Z")
This entire charade proves the throne is truly empty, void of the power of God’s will. ---
**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/112 "2019-04-17T20:34:39Z")
The only thing I see around here that’s an empty void is the inside of your head. ---
**Author:** ![Eclypt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eclypt/32/272994_2.png) [@Eclypt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eclypt)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/113 "2019-04-17T20:42:19Z")
Our Empress Tash-Murkon is a wonderful addition to the storied history of the Imperial Throne. Your misguided rejection of her right to reign is deeply foolish. ---
**Author:** ![Ilan\_Ardishapur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ilan_ardishapur/32/341059_2.png) [@Ilan\_Ardishapur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ilan_Ardishapur)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/114 "2019-04-17T20:48:59Z")
Empty, meaningless insults do nothing to help your cause. All who are faithful can see the state of the Empire has deteriorated under this false throne. The Khanid must learn their place again, and only God’s chosen can do this. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/115 "2019-04-17T20:50:04Z")
> [@Eclypt](#): > > Empress Tash-Murkon And here I thought that when an Heir ascends the Throne, they leave their old House and become a member of the Emperor Family, ie; Jamyl Sarum becoming Jamyl I… without ‘Sarum’ on her name anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/116 "2019-04-17T20:52:07Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > they leave their old House and become a member of the Emperor Family, ie; Jamyl Sarum becoming Jamyl I… without ‘Sarum’ on her name anymore. You’re Correct. > [@Ilan\_Ardishapur](#): > > All who are faithful can see the state of the Empire has deteriorated under this false throne. All who are of the Faith can see that you and your little group are a bunch of pathetic clowns who couldn’t see any of the real problems the cluster faces if they were slapped in the face with them. Just give it up alright, I’m tired of you. ---
**Author:** ![Ilan\_Ardishapur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ilan_ardishapur/32/341059_2.png) [@Ilan\_Ardishapur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ilan_Ardishapur)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/117 "2019-04-17T20:56:21Z")
You’d do well to learn from your superiors in the Pretoria. They at least have some comprehension of public poise. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/118 "2019-04-17T20:58:19Z")
You’d do well to stop being a pompous little self-important jackass until you can at least back up all that big talk with a single sign of competence. ---
**Author:** ![Eclypt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eclypt/32/272994_2.png) [@Eclypt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eclypt)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/119 "2019-04-17T21:00:15Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > And here I thought that when an Heir ascends the Throne, they leave their old House and become a member of the Emperor Family, ie; Jamyl Sarum becoming Jamyl I… without ‘Sarum’ on her name anymore. Certainly. Considering the treacherous opinions of the man I addressed, I felt a small reminder of his fool reasoning was not inappropriate. You _do_ have a great interest in the specifics of Amarrian titles and address don’t you? Considering a position as a Mistress of Ceremonies somewhere? ---
**Author:** ![Ilan\_Ardishapur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ilan_ardishapur/32/341059_2.png) [@Ilan\_Ardishapur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ilan_Ardishapur)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/120 "2019-04-17T21:00:51Z")
Is that a mirror you’re speaking to? Your lawless kind has nothing to offer in the affairs of the Empire. ---
**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572/121 "2019-04-17T21:00:57Z")
> [@Ilan\_Ardishapur](#): > > You’d do well to learn from your superiors in the Pretoria. They at least have some comprehension of public poise. What can I say? I’m allergic to stupid and you’re giving me hives. It’s hard not to speak out. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-fabai-aridia-and-what-should-be-done-about-it/152572.md?page=7)