# State of Ganking **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [February 8, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057 "2022-02-08T15:28:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Lennox\_Dantes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lennox_dantes/32/376609_2.png) [@Lennox\_Dantes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lennox_Dantes)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/201 "2022-02-19T02:01:55Z")
Is concord gonna blow me up for podding in Low Sec? Some systems lemme shoot the pod. others dont ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/202 "2022-02-19T02:04:54Z")
Huh? There is no CONCORD in low sec. ---
**Author:** ![Lennox\_Dantes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lennox_dantes/32/376609_2.png) [@Lennox\_Dantes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lennox_Dantes)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/203 "2022-02-19T02:05:24Z")
Why is my safety going off? ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/204 "2022-02-19T02:05:32Z")
Concord never leaves the doughnut shop in low sec. But you will get a kill right on you and a sec hit. You’ll need to have your safety thing off green. ---
**Author:** ![Lennox\_Dantes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lennox_dantes/32/376609_2.png) [@Lennox\_Dantes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lennox_Dantes)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/205 "2022-02-19T02:05:46Z")
its on yellow ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/206 "2022-02-19T02:05:58Z")
> [@Lennox\_Dantes](#): > > Why is my safety going off? You mean the button? Do you have it set to red? ---
**Author:** ![Lennox\_Dantes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lennox_dantes/32/376609_2.png) [@Lennox\_Dantes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lennox_Dantes)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/207 "2022-02-19T02:06:23Z")
yellow. change it to red? ---
**Author:** ![Lennox\_Dantes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lennox_dantes/32/376609_2.png) [@Lennox\_Dantes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lennox_Dantes)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/208 "2022-02-19T04:58:26Z")
Yep, im retarded. changed to red. poof pods ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/209 "2022-02-19T08:29:16Z")
Only if you jump to hisec while still having the criminal timer active. ---
**Author:** ![Gretek\_Moergyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gretek_moergyn/32/379137_2.png) [@Gretek\_Moergyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gretek_Moergyn)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/210 "2022-02-27T12:35:30Z")
> [@Taylor\_Hartz](#): > > More players are leaving the game due to the skill/isk/knowledge gap. Not everyone wants to be elitist and minmax. Then having to lose everything over and over to gankers in high sec. A few hundred or thousand of you people that just gank to spite new players are casual players you think you are superior too. What of the tens of thousands who leave the game over toxic people that cant contend with. The community is leading to this games demise and the fact the devs keep trying to put a band-aid on the issue hasnt improved anything. Being able to gank in high sec you are going out of you ways to ruin other peoples fun in the game and if this is all you find fun in this game then that is really sad. Well, they are griefers, and that is what griefers do. As I have said, their griefing serves no gameplay purpose. They just do it because they can, and because they think ruining someone else’s gaming session is fun. Certain people in this thread can blather and throw around insults all they want, but I, personally, have not renewed my paid subscription because I got tired of my corp mates constantly calling out “so-and-so is red” in the systems we like to mine in, or “so-and-so gate is camped.” That’s less money for CCP or whatever entity runs this game. How many other players have stopped paying for subscriptions or left Eve entirely? I can no longer spend any time in friendly cooperative gaming sessions with my corp mates, because I’ve had enough with dodging griefers. I can’t reach my corp’s home system because every hi-sec gate enroute is camped. So on the rare occasions when I play Eve Online, I stay in and around the relatively safe system I first moved to way back in 2006. Having the entire universe of New Eden as a kind of Wild West where nobody is safe anywhere was a good idea when the game began, and a good idea in 2005, when I started playing, but times have changed. Newer players are coming to the game for different reasons. My own reasons for playing have changed. I’m near retirement age in RL, and I play computer games as a distraction, as a way to relax, not for the drama. If Eve does not change to accommodate the changing composition of its player base, it will die sooner rather than later. The griefers, of course, don’t care about this. They will just take their toxic playstyle to another game. It would help Eve, not hurt it, to make 1.0 and 0.9 space completely off limits to griefer gameplay. Let the rewards be much greater for players below 0.9, but those of us who prefer to dial down the drama would like an area where we can exist in peace. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/211 "2022-02-27T12:45:26Z")
> [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > I can’t reach my corp’s home system because every hi-sec gate enroute is camped. Hard to take anything you write seriously after you put some asinine ■■■■■■■■ like that down on paper. > [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > I’m near retirement age in RL, and I play computer games as a distraction, as a way to relax, not for the drama. If Eve does not change to accommodate the changing composition of its player base, it will die sooner rather than later. You can have peace and quiet in a video game as long as you and the rest of you old boomer cunts (I am saying this tongue-in-cheek, but frankly hope you get offended _anyway_) stop driving up real estate prices with your speculative portfolio investment that ensures that my generation needs to give up upwards of three-quarters of our post-tax income just to make rent on apartments the size of prison cells. Toodles! 😘 ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/212 "2022-02-27T14:02:25Z")
> [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > because they think ruining someone else’s gaming session is fun. Incorrect, Some do it to inject a sense of danger and adrenaline into the otherwise drab and boring highsec life style. It’s called “content creation.” ---
**Author:** ![Vinnegar\_Douche](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vinnegar_douche/32/414578_2.png) [@Vinnegar\_Douche](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vinnegar_Douche)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/213 "2022-02-27T14:10:06Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > You can have peace and quiet in a video game as long as you and the rest of you old boomer punts stop driving up real estate prices ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/b/8/4b85a87e2270d044f9095321ad398ccd10dcdd6b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/214 "2022-02-27T15:01:21Z")
> [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > I got tired of my corp mates constantly calling out “so-and-so is red” in the systems we like to mine in What I don’t understand with the people who want to mine in utter safety is what they are mining _for_. To be able to build a massive pile of ISK ? Does anything ever get bought with all that ISK, and if so, what ? If all you want to do is ‘mine’…for relaxation…why not just go out in a Venture ? They can easily flee back to a station if gankers show up. I top up my ISK now and then with a Venture. I’ve never even _seen_ a miner gank in the asteroid belts, let alone been chased. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/215 "2022-02-27T15:33:41Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > What I don’t understand with the people who want to mine in utter safety is what they are mining _for_. More. > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > To be able to build a massive pile of ISK ? Yes. > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Does anything ever get bought with all that ISK Yes. > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > and if so, what ? +Yield. HTH ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/216 "2022-02-27T15:36:19Z")
Ore for ore’s sake. I think that was a song by 10CC 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sere\_O\_Asis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sere_o_asis/32/374997_2.png) [@Sere\_O\_Asis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sere_O_Asis)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/217 "2022-02-27T16:42:09Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Some do it to inject a sense of danger and adrenaline into the otherwise drab and boring highsec life style. > > It’s called “content creation.” This is worth repeating, and should probably be stickied somewhere where new players see it. Player made “content creation”, in all it’s various forms, which includes ganking, suicide ganking and gate camps, keeps highsec from appearing stale, lifeless, and boring. I’d like to repeat that last word, boring, cause “boring” drives players from EVE as well. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/218 "2022-02-27T17:38:13Z")
> [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > I got tired of my corp mates constantly calling out “so-and-so is red” This is why I play solo. No one likes a mouth breathing cheeto eating miner on comms. > [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > I can no longer spend any time in friendly cooperative gaming sessions After reading your post, I’ve come to the conclusion that you’re unfriendly, uncooperative, miserable bitter person to be around. Your corp probably sighed a breath of relief when they realized you quit. > [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > My own reasons for playing have changed. I’m near retirement age in RL, and I play computer games as a distraction, as a way to relax, not for the drama. Doubt. A person who is nearing retirement age would have enough real life wisdom to recognize that “peaceful, no-drama” gaming only occurs in single player games. The moment another person joins, drama is injected. Good or bad. > [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > It would help Eve, not hurt it, to make 1.0 and 0.9 space completely off limits to griefer gameplay. That’s pure speculation and has no basis in fact. Unless you happen to have data hidden in your back pocket to support that claim. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/219 "2022-02-28T07:06:20Z")
> [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > Well, they are griefers, and that is what griefers do. Nope. Its a valid playstyle supported by the devs. Learn to EVE kthx 😃 > [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > I can no longer spend any time in friendly cooperative gaming sessions with my corp mates, because I’ve had enough with dodging griefers. I can’t reach my corp’s home system because every hi-sec gate enroute is camped. Wut. Ok, now this is just a straight lie ROFL. There are only a few systems camped and def not 24/7 either. > [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > Having the entire universe of New Eden as a kind of Wild West where nobody is safe anywhere was a good idea when the game began LOL most of high sec is perfectly fine ROFL. > [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > ’m near retirement age in RL, and I play computer games as a distraction, as a way to relax, not for the drama I recommend Animal Crossing 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057/220 "2022-02-28T08:03:56Z")
> [@Gretek\_Moergyn](#): > > Having the entire universe of New Eden as a kind of Wild West where nobody is safe anywhere was a good idea when the game began, and a good idea in 2005, when I started playing, but times have changed. My own reasons for playing have changed. I’m near retirement age in RL, and I play computer games as a distraction, as a way to relax, not for the drama. Look grandpa, EvE Online is not your nursing home. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-ganking/349057.md?page=12)