# State of Raravoss

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 1, 2020, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788 "2020-06-01T15:08:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Maximilian\_Wulffe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maximilian_wulffe/32/210326_2.png) [@Maximilian\_Wulffe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maximilian_Wulffe)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/22 "2020-06-01T17:15:16Z")

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Please leave the larping to the appropriate furry forums, thanks.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/23 "2020-06-01T17:20:30Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Really? So where are their corpses?

Triglavians go to Nav after death. Triglavian home is in Abyss. They are bringing Abyss to New Eden to make it a home.

They never needed anything that looks like CONCORD.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/24 "2020-06-01T17:22:19Z")

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So their new player systems will be low sec? Seems highly unlikely

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/25 "2020-06-01T17:23:42Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> So where are their corpses?

Muh freezer.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/26 "2020-06-01T17:28:11Z")

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These will be their homes. Triglavians are not capsuleers, not want to be, they win as Triglavians and will stay Triglavians after victory. They will stay there after star will be converted irreversibly.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/27 "2020-06-01T17:29:27Z")

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So, the new player faction wont be capsuleers?

Thatll be interesting

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/28 "2020-06-01T17:36:19Z")

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Do you mean new faction to choose when starting game? If yes, then what made u think so?

If even CCP will do such thing, Triglavians were never capsuleers. They have their own flow. 🔺

BTW Kybernaut is the fancy word Trigs use for capsuleers that already fly in New Eden, but not for themselves.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/29 "2020-06-01T17:43:46Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> If yes, then what made u think so?

It makes much more sense that ridiculuous conclusions other people are making like “Its going to stay Low Sec forever now” and “Its not fair, how come we cant raise High Sec to super High Sec”.

Im of the strong opinion that CCP have been planning to have the Trigs as a 5th Empire for some time.

Makes more sense than yet another bunch of NPCs to get shot at. Especially when they have ship lines.

What other point would there be in introducing Triglavian Industrials?

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/30 "2020-06-01T17:57:36Z")

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The same as with other triglavian ships. New ship to fly filling some niche or creating new possibilities.

Triglavians are already much more interactable and interesting than drifters, but dont had to be more interactable than them while they are staying in New Eden, or Jove whose space was and is completely closed…

🔺

Could Triglavians be more developed as a faction? Certainly yes. But I dont think capsuleers will be Triglavians.

If CCP will eventually make Trigs abandon the flow and become like Kybernauts? That would be a bit surprising for me.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/31 "2020-06-01T18:05:57Z")

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I guess we will find out.

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**Author:** ![Shi\_Man-Gan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shi_man-gan/32/209913_2.png) [@Shi\_Man-Gan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shi_Man-Gan)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/32 "2020-06-01T18:12:40Z")

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About first picture:

According to ARC; it’s a Isogen-5 Extractor; coupled with Isogen-5 to Isogen-10 transmuter.

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**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/33 "2020-06-01T18:26:35Z")

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Well there talk that once the invasion is over the fifth player faction will be available.

And yes the Trig are said to be the new player faction.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/34 "2020-06-01T18:37:14Z")

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> [@DragoFire](#):
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> Well there talk that once the invasion is over the fifth player faction will be available.

CCP said so? Where is that talk available? I didnt hear it.

If its truth, something from Triglavian status will be lost I think. They have been adding originality in New Eden, after making them capsuleers, whey will be just another faction. Diplomatically, thats very strange, how they will not be shoot everywhere they go after taking over some parts of New Eden? Starting with bad standing towards all empires doesnt look like a good idea.

First the war would have to be dragged to a conclusion.

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**Author:** ![Shi\_Man-Gan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shi_man-gan/32/209913_2.png) [@Shi\_Man-Gan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shi_Man-Gan)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/35 "2020-06-01T18:44:47Z")

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I’m surprised as well. And intrigued too, as well.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/36 "2020-06-01T18:46:46Z")

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Maybe it was not CCP but players talking and speculating. If thats not CCP dev words, we still dont know anything…

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**Author:** ![Shi\_Man-Gan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shi_man-gan/32/209913_2.png) [@Shi\_Man-Gan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shi_Man-Gan)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/37 "2020-06-01T18:49:00Z")

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Enough that in mobile front (Echoes), the Yan-Jung were confirmed as 5th race.

Maybe there is a grain of truth in this…

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/38 "2020-06-01T18:54:10Z")

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> [@Shi\_Man-Gan](#):
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> the Yan-Jung were confirmed as 5th race.

I think its a lot easier there, they are starting with a carte blanche. Meanwhile Triglavians are fairly developed already and being alien so much they look differently, even use their own font and talk in different way. So much differences and incompatibilities with the rest of New Eden.

If they will be giving out missions and have their own agents, then how would they operate, what language, what font in windows? With the manner thats already established in New Eden? That is not Triglavians.

To play Triglavian, you would have to be born Triglavian with the lore thats already established. You would have to know language and read the font.

I may be wrong tho, and CCP will make some new technology when if you start Triglavian u can understand Triglavian very well, and font will be converted to readable, but it takes away a bit of what Triglavians were shown as. Because if you want to be Triglavian, why not embracing Triglavians as they are with font and strange talking? 🤔

What about Alpha status, what about shiips? Triglavians as Alphas would need triglavian ships, right? Being only Omegas?

Could Triglavians be even compatible with the rest of New Eden cloning and mind transfer system, when its in Empires power to allow usage of it? 🤔

First the war would have to end and all Empires with Concord being in some sort of pact with Triglavians.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/39 "2020-06-01T19:23:31Z")

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/40 "2020-06-01T19:38:03Z")

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I dont think a pesky thing like lore is going to get in the way of this idea.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-raravoss/245788/41 "2020-06-01T19:53:09Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> lore

On the other hand, why first make Triglavian lore in such shape. Of course Triglavians could be started to be “normalized” for the sake of compatibility, but not without losing a bit of their distinct Triglavian “flavor”.

If anything, Triglavians in such shape as now would rather like others to join their flow, but what that means?

There is possibility of Triglavian aligned Kybernaut spies in New Eden stealing technology and building infrastructure that allows for Triglavian Kybernauts? That would be completely new thing for Triglavians.

Merging Triglavians with Capsuleers… Not quite triglavians, and not quite capsuleers. 🤔

Including Kybernauts in the flow. Strange concept taking into account how distinct and different Triglavians seem to be. But CCP may just ignore that.

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