# State of the EVE Universe

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 16, 2022, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-eve-universe/373798 "2022-08-16T07:31:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/state-of-the-eve-universe/373798/26 "2022-08-16T12:16:02Z")

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> [@Presidente\_Gallente](#):
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> CCP took a big risk here because it is precisely because the game is close to the reality of work that it is very special.

You lose your debate creditability when you say vague words like this. BE SPECIFIC.

> [@Presidente\_Gallente](#):
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> You can compare the game with cave diving. I start confidently and have to fight my way through endless narrow passages. There are dangerous spots where I can get stuck, starve, die of thirst or drown. But at some point deep under the mountain, a huge grotto full of wondrous things opens up. And each passage leads into unknown territory with equal dangers.

??? What does this have to do with EVE. I like people who tell things straight up give me your opinion and real thoughts this is an internet forum. Talor your responses to the audience this is stuff we learn in high school writing.

> [@Presidente\_Gallente](#):
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> The monetization of EVE and the quick access to skill points seem like a last desperate act to squeeze something out of the lemon. It simply lacks a concept to make the game attractive to a new generation and to keep the games in the game despite the hard hurdles.

This is literally a feeling if you don’t notice the newer generation of gamers want **instant gratification** that’s why we have things like LSI, Abyssal Arena, Abyssal Dead Space, NS filiments, and more. All NEAR INSTANT content.

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> The basic toxic attitude that keeps players away from this wonderful game lies in the nature of the concept of a closed industrial, trade, and war system.

I would like to believe most groups in EVE are pretty normal people like comon? EVE toxic? I know their is drama but on a day to day encounter I consider EVE to be pretty chill. **YOU WANT TOXIC? Play Dota 2, Fortnite, CSGO, COD, LoL, and so many more.**

[Why do people keep declaring every game dying/dead? - Communications Center / Out Of Pod Experience - EVE Online Forums](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-do-people-keep-declaring-every-game-dying-dead/373232)

Not refuting EVE is not dead/dying but clearly OP is emotional here in his statement and cannot be taken in a serious manner debate wise. Watch the 2 videos about why every game is “dead/dying” _Don’t get emotionally attached to a game._ It will do you a lot of good OP.

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